Just to throw my tuppence worth in at this late stage...

Allotments *are* covered by URG. If you argue they aren't either implicitly
or explicitly then uk.rec.gardening.allotments has no business being a
subgroup of uk.rec.gardening

However, they are a specialist interest and I see no reason why anyone who
wants to can't be allowed to have a quiet corner to discuss them in, away
from the hussle and bussle which makes up the rest of the group. Anyone who
wants to listen in can subscribe as well.

The only two objections I've heard are that crossposting will cause problems
due to increased traffic, and that the group will be so under-used it will
fall into disuse and be killed. These are logically opposed arguments.
Either it is a problem because it is high traffic or because it is low
traffic - not both.

If it withers and dies then what was all the fuss about?
If on the other hand it grows then its formation was completely justified.
And to anyone worried about the crossposting, lets just ask urga not to do
it, and if it does, just set up your filters to filter the crossposts out.

For what it's worth, I voted YES.

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Martin & Anna Sykes
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"Anthony" wrote in message
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"martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 00:10:24 -0000, "Anthony"
wrote:
To discuss gardening issues relevant to the UK. These will include
flowers, shrubs, trees, fruit & vegetables, lawns, houseplants,
beneficial insects & animals, soils, composting, design, location,
situation, seasons/times, hard structures (paths, greenhouses,
cloches, rockeries), ponds, tools & materials, weeds and pests &
diseases. This is not meant to be an exhaustive list."

Which part of "This is not meant to be an exhaustive list." do you
find difficult to understand? Are you sure your read the charter?

So the word allotment is NOT specified!
Have you read what you cut and pasted?
It seems to be hiden in a secret paragraph.
You see I could talk about telegraph poles, cars and cess pits, because
each
of my neighbours has one or more in their garden, and still be on topic by
your argument. It will always be OK because somebody says it is 'not an
exhaustive list'.