"oo Mike oo" wrote in message
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In your first paragraph you write the "EPA" ESTIMATES 1.1 Million pounds
of
fertilizers and pesticides are DUMPED on our lawns annually. Right so
far?
Then you instruct us to multiply that number by a few hundred or a
THOUSAND
and the result will be in the Billions of pounds. Actually 1.1 Million
multiplied by your largest estimate of 1000 comes to just 1,100,000. Not
Billions as you state, but only 1.1 Billion. Sure as heck sounds like
"FUZZY
MATH" to me, not to mention it being one hell of an exaggeration.

Your entire tirade is based only on YOUR opinions, estimates and
unfounded
statements. Not once do you give a site or a verifiable quote from any
knowledgeable person to back up your claims. Then you have the
unmitigated
gall to write that I am uninformed. I'm certain you mean well, but like
all
other fanatics, you want everyone to blindly follow your rules.

Hound Dog



Ummm, 1,100,000 actually is equal to 1.1 million, and if you multiply
that by 1,000 you get 1,100,000,000 which is 1 billion 100 million.
You stated that 1,100,000 x 1,000 = 1,100,000.

Her math is not so fuzzy. I cannot vouch for the source of her
numbers.

Mike

As noted, it is always a good idea to actually READ the posts before jumping
in to attack. And it helps one's credibility to counter an argument with
some facts of your own. "Hound Dog" fails on both counts.

HD, if you bother to reread what I wrote, I said the estimate (yes, an EPA
"estimate" based on sales figures of the products) of 1.1 million pounds
annually was for MY immediate area only. I furthered that statement with
statistics provided by the EPA (do your own search to confirm or refute) for
1997, which provided a total of 4.6 billion pounds of pesticides (didn't
include fertilizers) consumed that year in the US, of which only 3/4's was
attributed to agricultural uses - the rest to homeowners. So explain to me
where the fuzzy math is - 1.1 million x 1000 = 1+ billion in my book and 25%
of 4.6 billion = 1.15 billion, but perhaps your math is different.
Regardless of how many billion, it is still an astronomically higher figure
than the 'few" pounds you attribute (without anything to support it, I might
add).

Yes, I believe you are uninformed - your initial statement certainly
supports that contention. And I doubt you have bothered to do any personal
research to either support your view or counter mine. If you want a site to
verify figures and data, check the EPA
http://www.pestlaw.com/x/guide/1999/...00A.html#Table Highlights

This is only one of many.

FWIW, I am not a fanatic but I do make it a point to be well informed about
issues which affect my livelihood (professional horticulturist) and my
environment and to dispute the veracity of wild ass claims made by folks who
don't have a clue what they are talking about.