On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:09:21 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

Not Bittersweet. Both are Hedera helix, the juvenille and adult fruiting
phases.

Actually Bittersweet has yellow capsules that split open to reveal the seeds
with a fleshy red coat. Hedera helix has blackish berries.

If the oval leaves and fruit are the *mature* phase, how come the stem
is so much narrower?