Maybe I should also point out to those wishing to construe otherwise that
this nursery is working very hard to breed captive populations that 1) will
reduce demand on the natural ones, and 2) actually replenish them!
I wish ignorance was painful. It would be self-controlling.
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Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids -
www.firstrays.com
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"Ray" wrote in message
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You're kidding, right?
Having "documented salvage" plants does not mean that 100% of the stock
is
of that category. The gentleman who runs that nursery is VERY sensitive
to
maintaining natural populations - to the point of withholding the
locations
of the natural populations he's worked with.
Any implication otherwise is either ignorant or trolling. I hope it's the
former, as it at least implies no malicious intent.
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Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
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"Janice" wrote in message
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On 17 Mar 2004 06:46:32 -0800,
(theoneflasehaddock) wrote:
"Ray" wrote in message
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I fully understand how having your place robbed would **** you off!
I had some Cyps growing in my yard here in PA that did the same kind
of
walkabout. I still wonder where they go the shovels to dig
themselves
up.
Here's a website from a company in PA that sells "documented salvage"
Cypripediums. It seems highly suspicious they would have enough of
"salvaged" plants to meet the demand for orders for three species.
At the time I had first seen this link, they had much less of the
other orchids listed, and were mostly cypripediums from "documented
salvage".
Just wondering as to your opinion if the site is legitimate and
getting large numbers of Cypripediums somehow legally, or poachers.
I've posted this on another forum, and found it posted on gardenweb,
where people were discussing whether they thought it was poachers or
not. I don't know if it is or isn't, but I believe it sounds
suspicious.
Turn them in to the governing body .. whoever they may be .. for
investigation. Could it be they salvaged the original plants and
raised more from them?
Probably not, but it's a possibility. How many could there be left in
the wild if they're "salvaging" enough to be advertising them all the
time? Could it be a bait and switch deal? Any number of possible
scenarios, but if you're suspicious, find out who would be the ones to
do the investigation. Write to the company and ask how many they had
available to sell.
If it's a lot, well send that along to the governing body to
investigate.
Janice
theoneflasehaddock
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Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
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"David Fouchey" wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:33:38 -0500, "Ray"
wrote:
That seems a little harsh. Do I detect a personal bone to pick?
Just a touch, had a nice group of cow horn orchids on a piece of
property that I enjoyed watching for years (South Floorida), until
some sob came in at night and cleaned out the whole lot of
them....I
have no patience for unscrupulous wild collectors. Get permission,
sample some and make clones whatever but don't strip mine an entire
colony....
Rant Mode Off Ray...
Dave