On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:39:36 +0100, "Martin"
wrote:



The last line contains the words "Go veggie."

You don't say! so from that you think an order do you? sigh.

where does that leave your statement in the last post

"Now off to bed with you, you've got a lecture tomorrow afternoon."

AM I to take it you are ordering me to bed?

YES! Now we agree what an order is! Hey Mr AttiK, we've found some common
ground. I think we can really move forward from here.


Like I said. Drama Queen.

Yes, you did say that didn't you? Anyway, in the spirit of our newly defined
sharing of common ground, I'm going to take it in the spirit of good humour
you probably meant.

It's a start, but a little long winded for my liking.

It's not lecturing it's free advice. I get paid to lecture.

Oops - you don't need to get paid for it to be lecturing.

I never said you did. Your cognitive skills are somewhat lacking. Do
you suffer from psychotic tendencies?

Dash it, I'm
starting to lecture you myself now. I feel cheap and used.

Like I said, drama queen.

You clearly hold your belief very strongly, but that does not of
itself make it right for everyone.

Who said it did?

So you think it's okay for some people to eat meat?

If you are starving you'll eat what you can, including each other.

Posting it in a newsgroup about gardening is just
plain wrong.

I don't.

Yes you do. Look at the "To" list. It's the second last one.

Stop your incoherent snipping.

I DONT think it's wrong.

Have you stopped to consider whether what you are doing helps
your message, or detracts from it. All that illogical stuff about
respecting the rights of people to eat what they want being
analagous to respecting the right of people to abuse children
doesn't strengthen your point. It weakens it.

I don't think so, my choice.

Seriously though. You must see that that doesn't scan?

No. It's a well known fact that those who enjoy animal abuse often
abuse adults/children/the system etc.

I can understand that issues such as cruelty to animals, and
vegetarianism are things that people might well want to evangelise
about, but if you do it in a way that turns people off, you'll only
drive them to an opposite view.

Then they are stupid people. I take advice at face value and then
decide what to do with it. You don't shoot the messenger just because
he has spots.

Well yes, people can be stupid. What I'm saying is that if you want these
stupid people to behave in the same way (wrt to not eating meat) as wise
people you should probably avoid insulting and annoying them. That's advice
not an order.

People should stop eating meat because of their conscience, not mine!

Calling people names will not endear you to them either.

That's the general idea.

Okay, I didn't realise it was actually your aim to make people dislike you.
That's thrown me a bit.

It's not my aim, just a fringe benefit.

I'm going to get a bit hypocritical now, and tell you something.

I'm not a doctor you know, but go on.

Ah, was that a glimpse of a sense of humour?

You mean this is the first time you have sensed humor in my posts?
were you abused by your lecturer?

You need to decide whether you simply want to rail against the world,

That's a good start.

or
whether you want to win hearts and minds.

I couldnt give a stuff what people think of me, isn't that quite
plain? It's not about me is it!

I'm sure you know that the winning of hearts and minds in this case was a
reference to altering people's attitudes to animal cruelty and
vegetarianism, not whether they like you or not. We've already established
that you actively *want* to be disliked.

So It's now clear?

It's coming across very much like
the former today!

It really doesn't matter, all publicity is good.

I can't argue with that. (Because it's a cliche).

I like people who don't argue.

I'm off to bed.

Toodle pip, don't let the bed bugs bite.





Cheerio

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