Dont run hose water in the pond with dechlorinating it!

Get rid of all but 1-2 koi

I am very sorry for your loss.









On Sun, 9 May 2004 00:21:19 +0200, "CC" wrote:

Thank you for your answer. I am in Sacramento CA, not CAnada, sorry
(but my
wife is from Vancouver BC). I too have too many plants, mostly water
lilies,
but thank you for the offer. If I lived there I would have enjoyed
meeting
you.
I was not aware that I had too many Koi. 25+ (the ones that died) did
seem
too many to me, but they were very happy even in the murky water.
Also, they
all died overnight (some died after discovering the disaster, I
agonized
alongside with them), and they died of whatever went on in the pond
due to
the hose left in and the filter not functioning.

Now I have 12 + a goldfish, the lone survivor, but they are small,
very
small with only 2 approaching the size of the previous fish.
Also I am used to the metric system and volume calculations have
never been
my forte. The pond is L shaped, 12ftx3ft and 3ft deep more or less.
the
conversion from ft to gal. escapes me completely, so my pond could be
larger, or smaller for that matter, somebody eyeballed it for me but
I do
not trust their judgment much more than I trust mine.

I realize that aquariums stores give terrible advice, which is why I
came
here. I have been reading all the past posts and they have been very
helpful.

As why they died, my wife insists that they must have suffocated due
to the
water hose stirring up the silt off the bottom and severely clouding
the
water. It could have been, they all died as if trying to escape the
pond.

I'll keep on reading, and I thank you for your response.

CC





"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
. ..
The responses below answers your questions. For the size of your
pond you
do have too many Koi.

From the rule of thumb bounced around here, assuming 1200 gallons
you
should
have 3 Koi. Unless you really watch all your parameters like a
hawk!

Where in California are you. I am in Rancho Cucamonga (By Ontario
Airport
in case you need a hand and free plants! I have way too many
plants, and
don't have the heart to throw them away)

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"CC" wrote in message
...
Hi, a couple of months ago I moved in a new house with a pond.

I was thrilled, but I soon discovered that the pond was left
abandoned
for
months. I knew nothing of ponds, but quickly I grew attached and
fascinated
by my Kois. I spent many days by the pond feeding the kois and
enjoying
them.

One day, we were trying to get the dead leaves out, and toward
the end
of
the day a garden hose fell in the pond. I did not noticed.

The day after, I found 28 dead kois (7" to 12") splashed around
the
overfilled pond and one lone small goldfish alive inside.

The hose was spraying full force and the pond was crystal clear.

I was devastated! I cried like a baby. These kois had become my
best
friends
and my morning ritual. To this day I can't go by the pond without
feeling
a
knot in my stomach.

Being new at ponds and not knowing any better, we (my wife and I)
went
out
and bought 12 baby kois (we had the water tested beforehand) and
repopulated
the pond.

I have 2 questions: 1) What did the kois died of? One thing I
feel I
must
add is that the filter was clogged when I found them)

2) my wife is obsessed with the pond being clear, I would rather
have
the
pond dirty and happy, live Kois. She is going ahead with emptying
the
pond
and clean the muck from the bottom. We have a Pump wet-dry vac
and all
the
chemicals plus the testing strips. How would you do it? The pond
is
900/1200
gallons, 3-4 ft deep and L shaped. We have now 3 bio-filtered
pumps.

I am telling my wife to leave it alone and let the chemicals and
pumps
do
their work, but she won't listen and has acquired enough opinions
from
pond
shops to uphold her way of doing things.

I, don't want to lose one single Koi, or I'll be heartbroken
again.

Ideas?

Thank you very much

Pond in California