Not sure what the term "pump" is intended to mean? Is it intended to mean
the biological process of yeast converting sugar into alcohol and co2? This
does create quite a bit of co2 for a while which can lead to pressure in a
closed container. So a 2 liter plastic bottle tends to spew out the co2 -
thru an airline hose and into planted tanks. I used two bottles for my 55
gallon but had to replace the mixture about every 2-3 weeks.
I, like many others, have used DIY co2 setups, using yeast, and subsequently
graduated to a pressurized co2 system - tank, regulator, needle valve and
reactor - but no "Pump"!. It is much less trouble to maintain. And much
less chance of running out of co2, forgetting to refill the bottle at the
right time, especially if you travel.
Both provide good results on my plants; no adverse impact to my fish unless
the co2 is too much. At night I run an airstone in one tank which is
heavily stocked with fish. I leave the co2 running all the time cause I did
not spend the extra for a solenoid to control it - an extra $30 or so. My
$11 fill of co2 lasts about 8 months.
And I have over 35 years of fish keeping and breeding experience!
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Everywhere I go I find another reason not to add
an CO2 pump to my aquarium tank.
http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plant.../msg00212.html
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"Sir Douglas Cook" wrote in message
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I really enjoyed visiting your website http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua
although I would like to chatt about the difference between beautiful
planted aquariums and beautiful planted aquariums with a CO2 pump
and Fishkeeping.
"Chuck Gadd" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:38:02 -0700, "Sir Douglas Cook"
wrote:
Co2 pump are so easy to make why would anyone pay for
one???????????????
Yeast CO2 systems do provide as stable a source of CO2. Additionally,
they require much more time and effort. With a compressed gas CO2
system, you can set it, and not touch it for a year or more. The
price of yeast and sugar isn't free. I pay $10.00 for over a year
worth of CO2 for my 75g tank. To do that with a yeast system would
require several 2L bottles, and constant work mixing and changing
them.
I am just suggesting that just one person out there might just want
to try this "FREE" CO2 PUMP before they fork out the cash.
Since I add baking soda one 2L bottle will last over a month,
and after all my homemade CO2 filter is simple to make and
did I say "FREE", "FREE", "FREE".
The nice part about it is most of my friends that have CO2 pumps
said to me that "If only they tried my method first they wouldn't have
bought a C02 pump" because they care about their fish primarily.
But, since they own it they have setup another tank with the CO2
which is ONLY used for plants. Now that make sense.
You won't read anywhere that MORE CO2 is needed BY THE FISH
in an aquarium!!!!!!
your undergravel filter where there is lots of surface area for the
gas
to
exchange.
The buildup of CO2 in the UGF would probably negatively effect the
bacteria that are critical for proper UGF operation.
That's what they tell you, although it does work well with UGF.
Keep in mind that if you mix CO2 in the upper part of the tank
you are in fact drawing the waste and the CO2 through the
UGF (Under Gravel Filter), Right.
And since I mix the CO2 after the UGF as the water flow in downward
(most/more) of the CO2 is used by the plants before it gets to the UGF.
It is funny to me, that the reason that I put the CO2 after the
UGF is the same reason that you dispute it!
Please read on.
care, if at all. Remember that high CO2 levels may reduce the oxygen
uptake
of the water and lead to a risk of hypoxia in the fish, especially if
the
Completely false at levels encountered in our aquariums. CO2 levels
elevated to the levels used for planted aquaria (40ppm max) will not
prevent any absorption of O2.
Wrong, it make sense that 40ppm could be oxygen which is replaced
with CO2. As stated above.
Additionally, when used correctly in a planted aquarium, with high
lighting, lots of plants, and CO2 injection, the plants photosynthesis
rate will be high enough to drive the O2 level over 100% during the
day. This is a cause of the "pearling" often seen in a healthy
planted tank. O2 bubbles are released into the water, because the
water cannot absorb any more.
Cannot absorb any more oxygen,,, Thank you for pointing that out.
Your right again, 40ppm is the CO2 that has attached itself to the
water making it impossible for the Water to accept the 40ppm of the
new oxygen.
In regular non-planted aquarium, using airstones or powerheads for
water movement/aeration, typical O2 levels are around 75%. In a
health CO2 injected planted tank, the O2 levels are over 100% during
the day, and during the night, only fall to 80% or so.
Are you telling me that the plant give off so much oxygen that your
water
is 100%, that's like pure H2O, Wow, that's sounds impressive!
I better tell my science teacher, that a planted aquarium with a
CO2 pump using the same hardware and equipment has more Oxygen at night!
He would be so proud of me. ;-)
It is not only my opinion but it is the opinion of
Mary Bailey and Peter Burgess as I QUOTED their book
Tropical Fishlopaedia
Mary Bailey has kept tropical fish for more than 25 years, and is known
INTERNATIONALLY AS AN EXPERT on the cichlid family. She has
written several fishkeeping books, and the English editor of
AQUA GEOGRAPHIA MAGAZINE. She also contributor to
and CO-EDITOR of, the cichlids yearbook series.
And
you my friend are disputing with
A
Dr. Peter Burgess BSc MSc Mphil PhD,
Is a "FISH HEALTH SCIENTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!",
with more than 25 years' experience as an aquarist. An
author of numerous articles and scientific papers on fishkeeping,
he is editor of the
INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL AQUARIUM SCIENCES AND CONSERVATION!
A visiting lecturer in aquarium sciences, he is also an INTERNATIONAL
consultant to the aquarium fish industry.
Can you tell me about your background?
I can tell your information didn't come directly off of the CO2 Pumps
box.
But, for the listeners,,, Let them know strong your knowledge is.
dioxide, making the CO2 injection a rather pointless exercise! CO2
injection
should always be turned off at night - When the plants do not need
it."
Tom Barr recently published some university studies that showed that
algae is better able to handle fluxuating CO2 levels better than
higher plants. So by constantly having the CO2 level rise and fall,
you are giving the algae a slight advantage over the plants.
Ok, great Tom has confirmed that even plants have a hard time with
fluxuating CO2.
And you want to put that into your FISH tank!
The only possible reason I see to turn off CO2 at night is to save the
cost of the CO2. But when I pay just $10.00 for more than a year, I
can't see adding the cost of a solenoid and timer to switch the CO2 on
and off. It would take decades to make up the cost.
Or simply keep your CO2 pump with your "Plants Only tank"
I must say I have visited http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua and
I was very, very impressed by your web site, you are a person that
I do respect. Your planted tanks and catfish information was
overwhelming.
I will visit your page again.
I would like to add your link to my page for those in search of
the perfect aquarium.
Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua
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