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On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:52:24 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
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Hi Guys,

I was living in flats before so I did not get a chance to do any
gardening. Now I have got a small garden, but I dunno anything
about
the gardening at all. Basically the garden already has got some
rose
plants and few other plants which i have not got a clue what they
are -
they may be even some weeds (pardon me I am not good at English
either)


About the Rose plants -

I have got two tall grown rose plants one of the two plants got
flowers and florishing, the other one has got lots of buds than the
other, but these buds are falling down and some kind of granules
falling down from the rose tree and it looks like sicky. I really
do
not know how to explain the desease.

please some one help me what I suppose to do for that tree,
I really want that tree go back to normal


Roses get every disease and pest under the sun. Chuck 'em away and
grow
something else instead.
I have several rose varieties in my garden. All got for free as this
is a
large rose growing area. In autumn they harvest the rose bushes with a
machine and any left behind are simply ploughed into the field after a
week.
I wait till I see them harvesting and then go and get any likely
looking
ones before they get ploughed in . I never spray as I am organic. If I
prune
at all it is simply lopping off whatever branch is in my way. My roses
bloom
all year long and nothing bothers them. They get greenfly, and
blackfly
which get eaten by birds. Otherwise, perfectly healthy.If yours get
every
disease under the sun you must be doing something wrong.


I have one rose in my garden, which staggers by from one year to the
next,
it gets various diseases and occasionally I lop a bit off it, tahts all
the
treatment it gets, the same as you appear to do to yours. I have in the
past
done nothing to roses I paid for..they died (having got ever disease
under
the sun) and treated them ..they died (having got ever disease under the
sun).
However, from what you post, my treatment (doing nothing) appears to be
the
same as your 'organic' treatment I just see no point in ever growing
another
one ever again.

On the other hand we have climbing roses we planted in 1984 and roses
planted by the previous owner of our house in 1975 all doing well.
Sometimes in a wet summer the climbing roses get a dose of mildew, but
normally they don't. This year was the first year we have ever sprayed
anything on them - soapy water to get rid of greenfly. I guess your
roses were already infected when you bought them???

No, all perfectly healthy looking specimens. But I havent bought a rose for
about 15 years. I have one that is the sole survivor from when I moved in
(10 years ago) and one that was bought about 5 years ago by a friend. Thats
nearly dead :-(

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