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Old 04-06-2004, 10:04 AM
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Default FREE - grazing for goats on 25 fenced acres - N of Austin

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Mapanari wrote:

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In article ,
Mapanari wrote:

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Free grazing for goats on 25 fenced acres. A friend of ours
wants to remove some of the grass & small brush from his 25 acres
near Briggs. He has a nice tract of 25 acres that is completely
fenced. It has water as well.

If you have some goats or llamas that you want to park for a few
weeks, etc. then do this:

1. Call Don at 512-489-2557. He owns and lives on the 25 acres
near Briggs, TX 78608.
2. "Do Not" eMail me - I have told you everything I know.
(Your eMail will not be returned, as my filter zaps all of them.)







Uh, goats are terrible for grazing. They pull grasses up by the roots
to eat instead of cropping the grass like cows and other rudiments.

If you look at the middle east, Korea, Africa, the Greek Islands and
many places that used to forested and grassy, the single cause of
devestation has been people, with their goats.

I'm not sure which catagory llamas fall into but since they're a member
of the camel family and genetically programed to get as much moisture
as they can, roots have the most reserves of moisture so I'd say no to
them to, but I could be wrong.

Also, bad grazing can leave all the bad plants, mesquite, cactus etc
and nub down to nothing all the good soft grasses.

You might want to check into several people in the Hill
country(websites) who've been fighting to bring back the hill country
natural grasses back to their original time, and have been rewarded
with streams flowing again, springs popping up where they have been
dormant for 100 years, game animals moving in, migratory birds etc.
First clue, is to get rid of all the cedar.

Remember, there is a reason why Mexico looks like Mexico. Goats and
bad farming practices.

Good luck.


ONLY if they are overcrowded and not moved enough...

Goats are not as destructive as you think if they are managed properly.

Really.

K.


You have a point...but what 3rd world ******** dweller ever thinks "I have
too many goats!"?


snort No kidding... but what do 3rd world morons have to do with the
more educated goat herders here in Texas???


Also, a very few goats left indefinetly in one area will destroy it.


We take drives thru the farming areas here in Texas all the time and see
dozens of goat herds, and I have yet to see deplented land. ;-)

Most farmers here are brighter than that.

There is also the problem of the cloven hoofs and such; flat footed
herbavors (sp?) don't cut up the ground and destroy it after a rain.
Goats will also destroy trees, being very much like deer except that goats
will eat more woody stuff than deer will and will gnaw off branches and
whole young trees down to the stub.


I've raised goats. I have yet to have them destroy anything.

What about the white tailed goats that frequent this entire area???
They are no better than goats, and the hill country looks just fine to
me.

Deer only do that when really hungry, and a case can be made for deer as
they encourage tree growth at the top and canopy by eating all the little
tender sucker shoots they can reach, which can be as high at 10'!
Goats will just gnaw that sucker down if left too long in a certain area.


Texas deer are nothing but glorified goats. Give me a break.


They're also noisy~! So there! s


Okay, I'll grant you that. G
My Nubian was a bit much! So we switched to Saanans. They were quieter.


I hate goats. I've been to too many places all around the world and have
seen the destruction that goats and overgrazing have caused. Goats are the
poor man's cow but they hurt the indigenous people in the long run.


If an idiot is going to own any livestock, they will be destructive, be
they goats, sheep, cows, emus, ostriches, pigs........ or humans.

Overgrazing and overcrowding are destructive no matter what the species.


But, until we have a pandemic and get rid of 5 billion people and let the
natural predators come back goats are going to continue turning savanas,
forests and farmland into deserts.


I've yet to see that problem in the hill country. Anywhere except in
small crowded pens.


Lets hear is for bringing back mountain lions in Austin~! Get rid of those
damn cats running around, stupid and slow children and goats and deer!


Hey! Leave the cats out of this!!!!! :-o


Wouldn't that be liberally politically correct? The "natural" way of
mother Gaia?


Yah, ok... Mounain lions also eat baby humans.

Goats are edible. I controlled the population of my goats by barbecuing
them. G Yum!!!!!!

K.

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