I don't know the origin of this thread or the course its taken so far, and I
have neither the desire, intellectual capacity or the need to prove to
anyone either in real life or on a newsgroup that using organic means to
provide nutrient and biological balance in my garden environment is the best
way for me.
*I've trimmed the crossposting cos for the reasons above I don't care to
argue with the inhabitants of 15 different newsgroups*
There will ALWAYS be folks who will try to prove, no matter what, that what
someone says can be disproved ....
But my take is this
I would rather use an organic solution than an inorganic one.
But that's me .......(your mileage may vary)
What are your opinions ? .... if we take at face value the statement that
some organic substances are more toxic than some synthetic ones .... would
YOU rather use the organic one than the synthetic one ? (assuming they are
being used for the same purpose)
Pete
"rick etter" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"ta" wrote in message
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rick etter wrote:
And that means also not cruelty-free. Just what I've been saying...
"...some organic pesticides have mammalian toxicities that are far
higher than many synthetic pesticides..."
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pu...oxic_Tools.pdf
Wow, I can't *believe* CFGI, which is funded by the right-wing think
tank
Hudson Institute, could possibly be promoting information that supports
their big agribusiness clients like Monsanto, ConAgra, and Archer
Daniels
Midland, who have everything to lose by the success of organic farming.
But to be fair, I can't answer the specific charges as I'm not an
expert,
so
I'm expanding the thread to get a wider range of input.
====================
OK let's expand it. Here's one from Clemson. Supported by big business
to
you, I'm sure...
"...Some organic pesticides are as toxic, or even more toxic, than many
synthetic chemical pesticides...."
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm
another...
"...Rotenone is more acutely toxic than many synthetic pesticides. Chronic
exposure to rotenone has been tentatively linked to Parkinson's disease in
humans. It is fairly toxic to mammals and birds. It is very toxic to
fish..."
http://www.ontarioprofessionals.com/organic.htm
I see you have nothing to add to the discussion though. Figures. Come
on,
show some support for claims of organic being cruelty/pesticide free
farming.
p.s.
"The Hudson Institute's IRS Form 990 for the financial year ending on
September 30, 2001 showed total income of $7,818,439, most of which came
in
large grants. Other known funders include:
Ag Processing Inc
American Cyanamid
Archer Daniels Midland
Cargill
Ciba-Geigy
ConAgra Foods
DowElanco
DuPont
Exxon Mobil
HJ Heinz
Lilly Endowment
McDonalds
Monsanto
National Agricultural Chemical Association
Novartis
Proctor & Gamble
Sunkist Growers
United Agri Products"
http://tinyurl.com/2uj4k