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rick etter wrote:
And that means also not cruelty-free. Just what I've been saying...

"...some organic pesticides have mammalian toxicities that are far
higher than many synthetic pesticides..."
http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pu...oxic_Tools.pdf

Wow, I can't *believe* CFGI, which is funded by the right-wing think
tank
Hudson Institute, could possibly be promoting information that
supports
their big agribusiness clients like Monsanto, ConAgra, and Archer
Daniels
Midland, who have everything to lose by the success of organic
farming.

But to be fair, I can't answer the specific charges as I'm not an
expert,
so
I'm expanding the thread to get a wider range of input.
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OK let's expand it. Here's one from Clemson. Supported by big business
to
you, I'm sure...

"...Some organic pesticides are as toxic, or even more toxic, than many
synthetic chemical pesticides...."
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm


another...
"...Rotenone is more acutely toxic than many synthetic pesticides.
Chronic
exposure to rotenone has been tentatively linked to Parkinson's disease
in
humans. It is fairly toxic to mammals and birds. It is very toxic to
fish..."
http://www.ontarioprofessionals.com/organic.htm




I see you have nothing to add to the discussion though. Figures. Come
on,
show some support for claims of organic being cruelty/pesticide free
farming.

Who claimed that organic farming was "pesticide free" or "cruelty
free"? Sounds like a big giant straw man to me.
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Another dodge, I see. Can't refute what I say huh? Try reading the past
posts for awhile and catch up. That is Always brought up as the
alternative pesticide and cruelty free.




p.s.

"The Hudson Institute's IRS Form 990 for the financial year ending on
September 30, 2001 showed total income of $7,818,439, most of which
came
in
large grants. Other known funders include:

Ag Processing Inc
American Cyanamid
Archer Daniels Midland
Cargill
Ciba-Geigy
ConAgra Foods
DowElanco
DuPont
Exxon Mobil
HJ Heinz
Lilly Endowment
McDonalds
Monsanto
National Agricultural Chemical Association
Novartis
Proctor & Gamble
Sunkist Growers
United Agri Products"

http://tinyurl.com/2uj4k