"Sirius631" wrote in message
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In article , "Pete"
writes:

I don't know the origin of this thread or the course its taken so far,
and I
have neither the desire, intellectual capacity or the need to prove to
anyone either in real life or on a newsgroup that using organic means to
provide nutrient and biological balance in my garden environment is the
best
way for me.

*I've trimmed the crossposting cos for the reasons above I don't care to
argue with the inhabitants of 15 different newsgroups*

There will ALWAYS be folks who will try to prove, no matter what, that
what
someone says can be disproved ....

But my take is this

I would rather use an organic solution than an inorganic one.
But that's me .......(your mileage may vary)

What are your opinions ? .... if we take at face value the statement that
some organic substances are more toxic than some synthetic ones ....
would
YOU rather use the organic one than the synthetic one ? (assuming they
are
being used for the same purpose)

Pete

There are organic and inorganic pesticides. One of them you would use if
you
want to grow organically, the other - well you know the arguements of the
spent
fossil fuels, the reduced biodiversity and the harmful residues in the
food.

If you are unable to reach a state of self-sufficiency with the resources
available to you, then, like me you have to make a choice. Do you buy
organic
as a matter of principle, ignoring the fact that it is shipped in from
foreign
parts, thus costing heavily in the use of fossil fuels to ship it? Or do
you
buy local? I don't think we have enough choice in Britain, even the
non-organic
produce in the shops are grown abroad.

David Lloyd
So open-minded - my brains dribbled out.

Hi David and thanks for the reply
I agree that you have to make choices depending on what resources are
available, although I was referring more to land management choices rather
than food purchases.

We try to produce as much as we can using what resources we have available
and though we tend to lose lots of "produce" to pests I've (so far) never
thrown in the towel and blasted everything with the really heavy stuff,
(I've used cabbage dust and pyrethrum sprays) ... so my question was really
aimed at folks who like us, get lots of bugs and beasties sharing their home
grown produce and try to control them with an organic solution ... better
land management and companion plantings, use of animals for pest and weed
control, animal manures, mulches and worms for nutrient and soil improvement
etc ...not specifically sprays or powder but using the "bigger" picture to
hopefully balance things out and avoid the use of toxins.

Good to see someone is still reading the NG David ....

*looks North and sees people in Scotland sunbathing !!!*

Pete