"John Watson" wrote in message
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"Blue" wrote in message
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You are correct in that both Washington and Jefferson were not bible
believers. However both made many references to "god" - Washington even
regularly attended church and associated with clerics - and that was
enough to baffle the citizens into believing they were bible believers.
Yes, other "founding fathers" were also non -believers (Franklin and
Paine)
but they did not hold national elected office. Paine went so far as to
ridicule the bible yet believe in "god" and was widely referred to even
in
this day as an infidel.

I think that they both were fairly open about their being Deists.


The fact is that this government has never in our entire history had a
member of the federal government who was not a "believer" in biblical
mythology or a liar who said or implied (as above) that he was . That
makes America a de-facto theocracy.

I was a member of the federal government for many years, or do you mean an
elected official?

Yes. It is all about shepherding - living well without working - which is
the paradigm of all cleric-driven mythologies - and their motivating
force.

The shepherd has two problems - how to increase his herd and how to limit
straying. The shepherd just doesn't care about the mindset of an individual
sheep as long as that sheep doesn't have enough political power to give him
either one of those problems. If the sheep attempts to gain adherents the
shepherd will be watching intently and pointing him out to his dogs. That
is exactly what elected officials do full time, i.e., try to get reelected
by winning friends and influencing people. Thus non-believers simply cannot
be permitted to hold elected office ( or appointment to the sureme court),
they are just too dangerous to the brotherhood of biblical clerics as they
are a threat to their livelihood.