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Old 02-07-2004, 06:03 AM
John Watson
 
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"Bill Oliver" wrote in message
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In article RiZEc.9517$a24.3376@attbi_s03, John Watson
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You shouldn't be so hard on John. He can't seem to help his
narrow-mindedness.


He was explaining your narrow-mindedness, not mind. G


You are the one making bigoted generalizations, not me.


I made no bigoted generalizations, you have.

The cockiness comes from the fact that this is a biblical country, no
one
else is even allowed into federal power, so we are literally enveloped
in
"confirmation."


No, the "cockiness" comes from knowing that John is lying, and knowing
that it is easy to show the lie.


Show me where I am lying, you can't, you and your Baptist agenda are both
bullshit! G

Easy. You have made a specific claim about how modern Christians
interpret
a parable. I have challenged you to back up that claim. You cannot, and
you know you cannot, and you know that you are not telling the truth. You
are lying.


What's all this modern Christian crap, I know you just can't wait to blame
the Catholics for everything, so I am going to give you the opportunity.

You are spinning a wicked web of deceit, try to be more honest.

Of course, you could easily disprove me by providing an example of a
mainstream
modern Christian denomination that interprets the parable the way you
claim.


I am not going to play your game of shifting the burden of proof.

You cannot. You know you cannot. You are lying.


I merely quoted the Bible and then showed how the words so inflamed the
Christians they killed millions of people because of it.

All recorded history, unlike the bible.

In AD476, warriors attacked the city of Rome and ended the more than 800
years of glory for the "eternal city." Historians mark the fall of Rome as
the end of ancient history. The next one thousand years were called the
Middle Ages. The Latin term for Middle Ages is "medieval."
The early Middle Ages are often called the "Dark Ages" because the
great civilizations of Greece and Rome had fallen. Life in Europe during the
Middle Ages was very hard. Very few people could read or write and nobody
expected conditions to improve. The only hope for most people during the
Middle Ages was their strong belief in Christianity, and the hope that life
in heaven would be better than life on earth.

The Dark Ages were anything but dark in other parts of the world. The
Muslims in the Middle East and North Africa studied and improved on the
works of the ancient Greeks while civilization flourished in sub-Saharan
Africa, China, India, and the Americas, while the Christians plotted the
murder of millions.

An order comes out of the Vatican, authorising the commencement of an
Inquisition to re-establish the orthodoxy of the faith. The charge of heresy
soon becomes entangled with the charge of witchcraft, and in this form took
until the seventeenth century to die away.

1307 - 1321

La Comedia, or The Divine Comedy as it came to be known, of Dante Alighieri
is written in Italy. This semi-autobiographical poem sets forth one of the
most influential descriptions of Hell in the literature, though Dante's vast
and intricate plan has, in the public eye, been superseded by Milton's
vision . Even less well-known are the two sections after Inferno that
complete the poem, Purgatorio and Paradiso.

Nothing ere I was made was made to be
Save things eterne, and I eterne abide;
Lay down all hope, you that go in by me.
-- trans. Dorothy L Sayers
1456
Vladislav Basarab of Transylvania gains the crown of Wallacia for the first
time (until 1462, and again briefly in 1468). From his father he earned the
nickname 'Dracula', son of the Dragon, but he earned for himself the name
Vlad the Impaler, for his favourite method of execution. Despite a large
amount of slander by his political opponents, many of the tales of his
cruelty were true (he is said to have killed over 40,000 people in his
reign). He was also a staunch defender of Christendom from the Turkish
threat.

1470 - 1516
The Dutch artist Hieronymous Bosch in this period produced paintings of
religious theme and nightmarish impact -- the best known is The Garden of
Earthly Delights. They came to the attention of the Inquisition after his
death, but powerful patrons protected the collection.

1485
The first edition Danse Macabre is published in Paris by Guyot Marchant. The
verses and illustrations are taken from the murals adorning the Cemetery of
the Innocents. The first set of couplets, by an unknown author, deal with
death coming to the forty stations of men. The matching verses for women are
credited to Martial d'Auvergne.

1486
The first edition of the Malleus Maleficarum is produced in Germany by the
Dominican inquisitors Hienrich Institoris (aka Henry Kramer) and Jakob
Sprenger. Literally 'the Hammer of Witches', it codified the form of belief
in witchcraft that spread, through fourteen editions by 1520, throughout
Europe. It contributed enormously to the witch craze of the Sixteenth and
Seventeenth centuries in which thousands of people were tortured and killed.

1492

The America's native people tortured and killed so that Christians may steal
their gold and land. Mass Genocide of Jesus' enemies.

1667
Paradise Lost is John Milton's epic poem of the fall from Heaven, the
English poet dictating his work to his daughters after being left blind in
1652. A strict Puritan, Milton still questioned Christian orthodoxy, and it
is his depiction of Satan, his realms and his struggle against omnipotence
that give the poem its power. Paradise was regained in 1671.

1692
Not the largest or most gruesome of the witch trials (Bamberg, Germany,
1623-1633 comes to mind), the events in Salem, Massachusetts are definitely
the most famous. A group of young girls began to claim local women were
bewitching them. The first arrest was a slave Tituba who provided all the
details that could be wished to capture the imagination. Prominent
theologians such as Cotton Mather provided legitimisation, and things ran on
from there.

John