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"Gordon Couger" wrote in message
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Gordon Couger writes

Do the conventional plots rotate the same as organic plots, are they
in
continues wheat or some other rotation.

Both are first wheats after break. The organic rotations have far more
breaks than the arable ones.

The largest loss in organic
agriculture is the years that the land is in low production rotations
that produce low value or no value crops.

Of course. Some of these are complete losses being, in effect, cover
crops. Red clover is a typical one, with herbiage all ploughed under,
in
all-arable organic rotations.

Then for a true picture the total yield in some unit, dollar or pounds
sterling per acre in total yield of wheat, feed, fiber meat and what
ever
should be totaled up and divided by the number of years in the study
giving
true value of the output of an organic farming operation per unit area
compared to a conventional or modern farm. Showing how much far they are
really behind modern methods. With total production nearer 25% or less
that
of a modern farm ran in an intensive operation.

Gordon

Hey Gord, don't forget to factor in the carcinogen and neurotoxin
levels/acre. In that your methodology is way ahead. How's your blood,
anyways? The last farmer I worked for couldn't walk 100 yards because his
blood no longer carries oxygen, thanks to the pesticides he worked with
his
whole life. The good news for progressive thinkers, and you're not one of
them, is that the old guard is dying off, and their children's thinking
will
change or show in the popularity they enjoy. The writing is on the wall,
and
the cost of producing and spreading poison is becoming something only the
very most willfully ignorant can ignore.

Not a thing wrong with my blood. I do have a problem with multiple sclerosis
that came down with when I was 15 before I had any thing to do with farm
chemicals. I saw my spray pilot the other day and at 70 is still working and
is healthy and has a little gray hair. My dad started having problems
walking a year ago he will be 96 in two months. My grand mother lived to 104
and her mother to 96 all with farming and ranching bakgrounds.

I do know a few farmers that injured themselves with insecticides by being
careless. That is why I hired experts to apply mine.

The average age of a farmer is nearly 60 and very very few young men are
coming back to the farm. My second cousin just took over the family ranch
and she is 58. Her dad stayed on until he died at 88.

I would like you to define what you think progressive agriculture is?

Gordon