thanks andrea,
i was a bit emotional on the day i guess, but yes it was bought on by
the fact that others keep saying there is no just simply promotion of
pc and the ideals, and this is borne out if one does a search. and
then those that wish to bleed it to death never seem to want to offer
much help free. and lurking is what seems to go on an awful lot in pc
forums/groups whatever, one forum has over 300 members and generates
app' i post every 2 days, some posts have had over 400 visits and only
8 or so responses, to me sort of sounds like hey why? even here alt.pc
up to a couple of years agao and for the 3 or so years before that
after i joined (is the only period i can talk about) there was lots of
banta going on new people coming in and the word was being spread but
now to all appearance sakes it is fairly much null and void
(refraining from using dead as may upset the few good people still
here). i don't profess to know anything about anything let alone
everything i just go along and give it my best shot and if something
works then hope to share that with others in their efforts.
we had hoped to simply be able to show people how without much more
than perusing a book that realy pc is from the heart, and so very
simple and the results although not as visibly obvious are there to be
seen.
i'll try and get some inspiration going on the suggestion for my web
page, just it's a bit hard to portray even in pics what processes are
going on and how they are working or that they are working at all. we
did have plans of some eco' tourism and then use that as the foot
inthe door to explain what we are doing. but in life things never
quiet go the way we'd like so now must look to other plans.
len
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:47:31 GMT, "Pinky"
wrote:
Hi Len,
That's a very intense and angry (and not completely clear) post there, but
it certainly brought people out, glad to know i'm not the only lurker 
)
Permaculture is a great thing, and sadly there is always an element of human
nature that likes to cash in on great things, tho I don't think it's the
only solution, it's a good one.
Maybe you need to approach this problem from a permaculture perspective, ie:
there's not an influx of money grubbing, selling it crap, there's simply a
lack of simple-get-started-now info and use your web site to get the word
out there?
Hope all is well and you're getting some healthy offers on your place,
Yours
Andrea
PS. If those are tim-tams you're passing out there Pete, I'll have one, ta
)
"len gardener" wrote in message
.. .
hey permie friends world wide?
lets cut the crap hey or should i say cut to the chase hey?
what do we really want hey?
permacultuer is about the best tool we have to encourage the common
man(women) to think serious;y about how we treat this only planet we
are ever gong to have to call home ok?
SO LETS CUT THE CRAP HEY?????????
lets get back to grass roots hey?
lets keep race. creed colour, voting style, politics and all that
other stuff people want and have the right to believe in hey.
we others don't need to know whether you stand up to pee or squat to
pee get the message?
OK FOLKS LETS KEEP it to K.I.S.S ................OK
Keep It Simple Stoopid!!!!!! (substitute silly if you are a
seppo)[sorry just how i see it]
ok getting the message hey?
cut the crap hey get diplomas, courses, people making money and all
that other SHIT out of something that is so simple and so close to the
heart of those that SIMPLY want to preserve this one and only planet
we are likely to have to live on.
so my message to you FOOLS that want to turn as dollar get out while
the getting IS good you are killing the best thing us common folk ever
had. ok that means you pv in nsw and all your mates.
i'm sure this is not what bill and his co-horts had in mind OK.
so in short **** OFF unless your really want to save this planet and
forget the bloody money ok! let that come later.
you are really shitting me and lots of others like me off.
and to you yuppies who f-u-c-k things up post this one around to your
mates hey, please provide pictures as they just simply won't
understand.
so lets SUCK it and SEE hey.
to all you genuine people i apologise but this has been a long time
coming for the chardeney set ok.
len proudly trying to tip the balance.
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"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the
environment
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'it works for me it could work for you,'
"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment
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