g'day fran,

there was a post or 2 here quiet some time ago if i recal i then
raised the issue of pc 4 sale only to those who can afford it.

i am currently in or lurking if you wish in 5 pc forums this one and 4
other forums. this one was by far the best some time back but has all
but faded away but for a few cross posts and smutt material.

i am also inviolved in quiet a number of gardening and related news
groups and forums even exclusively aussie forums, the difference
between the 2 that is pc and the others is that on all the others
there are gardeners and related chatting about what they are doing,
asking about help for porblems and otehrs providing help or assistance
where possible, people are not only excahnging ideas and pics online
but they are exchanging seeds and plant material where they can.

i myself have recieved all sorts of material from others and from you
as well and to all i am very grateful, i have been able to
reciprocagte buy sending stuff to others so the circle goes around,
but those gardening forums are vibrant and alive with chat, and they
are all at grass roots level no one is flogging lessons in growing
things or how to organic garden or even how to fix a mower it all
comes gratis to all and sundry.

i can emphasize with your pc friends and feel for their honest efforts
but unfortunately the world is full of those that would take
advantage, it's like some who take advantage of whooffers they think
these people travelling around are little more than slaves. back to
the serf's and lord's days.

in all those other forums there are dozens upon dozens probably
hundreds of posts daily, but perma-c would be lucky to generate up to
4 a day on any given day this topic excluded. and for the maion the
most topiced product in those permy posts is you guessed it yet
another fresh from someone's institute certified with diploma who now
wants the right to earn their money back. i have tried to have chat on
those forums about all sorts of things but usually if just fades away.

anyhow fran it is not a personal attack on you or any of the handful
of regulars still er um lurking.

yes i can ingnore the yuppies but those out there that we want to come
onto pc aren't and they aren't coming into pc, we realy need to get it
promoted very strongly at grass roots level, or i for one can't see it
going far.

the reason i frequent those other forums is that i am looking for
chat, knowledge and the sharing of it not knowledge from a carriculum
but knowledge from applying it and succeeding. i can only invite
people to come to pc i ca't make them come.

take care

len

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