Hi Pete,

Just taken a bit of time to do a bit more thinking how to finance the
purchase. If the stupid land prices in the UK are anything to go by, even
this tree and brick encrusted plot will cost the proverbial arm and leg.
I'll have to get my questions lined up, like what the water supply to the
property was like. Please let it be a well. Had a word with the manager of
the nearby farm and apparently Lord Stafford seams to take an active
interest in the farming. I know it will pale into insignificance against the
size of farms in Australia but to say Lord Stafford's land 'stretches as far
as the eye can see' is an understatement.

Hope I don't confuse anyone with the cange of addi, I've just gone on
broadband. I was fed up by the long download times for Microswiz updates,
which cost me the other arm and leg on dial-up. I'll have to see about
setting up an alias to avoid spam.

Regards,
David (was sirius631)


Hope I don't confuse
"Pete" wrote in message
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Hi David
Good luck with his Lordship.
I'd like to bet he wants top money for it ...though I'd also bet he
doesn't
know where it is till his "agent" tells him he owns it.
Sometimes these parcels of land are in some old family trust started waaay
back.

We often see old farmhouses which have just been abandoned, and I
fantasize
about how they'd make a great home ... sometimes the land has been bought
by
another farmer or maybe the parents lived there and the kids have grown
and
live in another house on the property somewhere, so they let Mum's old
place
just dissolve back into the earth .... such a shame sometimes ... huge
thick
stone walls perfect for passive control over the temperature inside, not
like our modern day "boxes".

I see Lord Stafford is the patron ??(is that the right term) of the Lord
Stafford awards, given for innovation and collaboration between business
and
Uni's ...maybe he's forward thinking enough to look favourably on a
permaculture community ...as long as it doesn't encroach on his "pheasant
shooting woods"

Best of luck with it.

"Sirius631" wrote in message
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Hi all,

Just thought I'd let yuo know about a rural plot that I'm investigating.
Hopefully I can buy it and build an environmentally friendly house on
it,
with
enough space to grow significantly more of my own food.

I had seen this ruin for many years, on my way to work, just to the
north
east
of junction 4 on the M54 in Shropshire, England. It has fallen into
greater
delapidation in recent times, having only the two end walls remaining
standing.
My initial investigations yielded nothing, but recently I enquired at a
nearby
farm and, as it turns out, all the land around is owned by Lord
Stafford.
I now
have a 'phone number for his land agent, whom I intend to call on
Monday,
to
see if they are open to offers.

If I can buy the plot, I would demolish the ruin and use the bricks to
form a
solid core to a glass atrium/straw bale house. The plot is only 1 mile
away
from work, as opposed to 25 and, when complete I'd sell the car and
cycle
to
work. Then again, I hate work.

Maybe I could interest others to join me in forming a mini permaculture
community

David Lloyd
So open-minded - my brains dribbled out.