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Old 14-07-2004, 12:29 PM
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"Dutch" wrote in message news:Sc2Jc.12823$ek5.8932@pd7tw2no...
"pearl" wrote

Thus, among Seventh-day Adventists, vegetarians are
healthier than nonvegetarians but this cannot be ascribed only to the
absence of meat.


Exactly, as the study says, the vegetarians differ from the non-vegetarians
in several other factors, which means the study you keep pasting here is
foiled, it does not show what you portray.

" About 50% of those
studied ate meat products 1 time/wk or not at all, and vegetarians
consumed more tomatoes, legumes, nuts, and fruit, but less coffee,
doughnuts, and eggs than did nonvegetarians."

The study that is required is a comparison between two otherwise nearly
dietarily identical groups, one vegan, and the other consuming a reasonable,
recommended, healthy amount of meat,


'.. disease rates were significantly associated within a range of dietary
plant food composition that suggested an absence of a disease prevention
threshold. That is, the closer a diet is to an all-plant foods diet, the
greater will be the reduction in the rates of these diseases.'
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases...sis_paper.html

not more donuts and coffee, not less
nuts or fruit. The caloric intake would need to be similiar and the calories
obtained from meat would be offset by whatever the vegan group used for
protein, i.e. tofu, tempeh, rice, or beans.


Emphasis* added...

Am J Clin Nutr 1999 Sep;70(3 Suppl):532S-538S
Associations between diet and cancer, ischemic heart disease,
and all-cause mortality in non-Hispanic white California
Seventh-day Adventists.
Fraser GE. Center for Health Research and the Department of
Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Loma Linda University, CA USA.

Results associating diet with chronic disease in a cohort of 34192
California Seventh-day Adventists are summarized. Most Seventh-day
Adventists do not smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol, and there is a wide
range of dietary exposures within the population. About 50% of those
studied ate meat products 1 time/wk or not at all, and vegetarians
consumed more tomatoes, legumes, nuts, and fruit, but less coffee,
doughnuts, and eggs than did nonvegetarians. *Multivariate analyses*
showed significant associations between beef consumption and fatal
ischemic heart disease (IHD) in men [relative risk (RR) = 2.31 for
subjects who ate beef or =3 times/wk compared with vegetarians],
significant protective associations between nut consumption and fatal
and nonfatal IHD in both sexes (RR approximately 0.5 for subjects
who ate nuts or =5 times/wk compared with those who ate nuts
1 time/wk), and reduced risk of IHD in subjects preferring whole-grain
to white bread. The lifetime risk of IHD was reduced by approximately
31% in those who consumed nuts frequently and by 37% in male
vegetarians compared with nonvegetarians. Cancers of the colon and
prostate were significantly more likely in nonvegetarians (RR of 1.88
and 1.54, respectively), and frequent beef consumers also had higher
risk of bladder cancer. Intake of legumes was negatively associated
with risk of colon cancer in nonvegetarians and risk of pancreatic
cancer. Higher consumption of all fruit or dried fruit was associated
with lower risks of lung, prostate, and pancreatic cancers.
Cross-sectional data suggest vegetarian Seventh-day Adventists have
lower risks of diabetes mellitus, hypertension, and arthritis than
nonvegetarians. Thus, among Seventh-day Adventists, vegetarians are
healthier than nonvegetarians but this cannot be ascribed only to the
absence of meat.
PMID: 10479227

Multivariate Analysis
A set of techniques used when variation in several variables has to be
studied simultaneously. In statistics, multivariate analysis is interpreted
as any analytic method that allows simultaneous study of two or more
dependent variables.
http://medical.webends.com/kw/Multivariate+Analysis.