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Old 14-07-2004, 01:19 PM
Lostin1999
 
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Default UV/Filter & water still green!

Hi Sky

Major water changes usually lead TO green water..

remember green water isn't usually unhealthy, Just unsightly...

Another (slow but natural) "cure" is Daphnia.. you can actually Buy eggs
online.. http://www.netfysh.com/quickshop/index.html and these also create a
good source of fish food (for when you do want to install fish)

My recommendation for now is to shade as much of the pond as you can.. (old
bed sheets? Gazebo??) and id also re check your UV as the pond is so badly
algaefied (is that a word?) it might be that the sleeve thing needs cleaning
again..

get 2 buckets, fill one up with water from the pond, and one with water
from the filter return...

compare the water (glass jam jar is brill for this) if both look the same,
the filter is not filtering.. then id recommend turning the UV off and
allow the filter to fill with the "good" bacteria that breaks down waste...
(a month of running without the uv should sort this) and start clearing the
water..

then when you turn the UV back on it will all clear over a week or two (like
magic)...

it certainly sounds like the Filter is not "optimal"

you can buy filter "enzymes" to speed this process up (or ask anyone you
know with a pond for a bit of there filter gunk (syphon a little water from
bottom of there filter tank (the really dirty stuff)) and put that in your
filter)

HTH

Lost






"SkyCatcher" wrote in message
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Hi Lost,

would a major water change help speed up the process if it is not blancket
weed?

The filter/UV are the recommended by heissner for this size of pond (they
come as a unit/kit) and I don't even have fish yet! I hope once it gets
clear (fingers crossed) that it will be able to keep it clear.

I'll try the lettuce though - I like those types of methods.

thanks

sky


"Lostin1999" wrote in message
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I have a 12000L pond with plants & NO fish. The filter/pump/UV are
appropriately sized & I changed the UV bulb 2 week ago - AND the

pond
if
still filled with green gloopy algae.

What more can I do to sort this out?

Help!



where is your pump in relation to filter outlet?

it is in the same side as the return fromthe filter - perhaps I need

tomove
it to the furtherest away point?


how is your pond fed? is it a liner or natural?

its a closed system which & is sealed concrete


is it string algae (blanket weed to UKers)?

well I've never seen blanket weed so I don't know. Its clumpy and

goey!


how fast are you pumping it through the UV?

according to the pump it would be at about 4500l/h at the height the

filter
is at.


where is the UV in relationship to pump and filter?

the UV is attached to the filter - it is a heissner unit (filter & UV)


how much sun does your pond get?

it is in full sun (not hat we get much here in the North of the UK)!


for an approx 3000 gallon pond, id expect it to take longer than 2

weeks
to
clear.. also might be worth slowing down the flow through the UV..

I expected a few weeks but it seems to be getting worse!


if its string algae (blanket weed) it will NOT be affected by the UV

or
the
Filter (it could however block your pump's impellor)

the flow seems to be the same from the pump but I'll check the

impellor


how old is the pond? how long has it been "green slop"?

I inherited the pond with the house about 3 months ago & it has always

been
green but it is getting worse!


recommend shading it a bit if in full sun.. and maybe introducing

duck
weed
(and many other floating plants...) to starve the algae of light and

use
up
some of the nutrients the algae is feeding off..

I've added marginals & floaters & lilys to help with this


really need a LOT more info to really offer help...

BTW what GPH (LPH) is the pump?

it is a Lotus 7500

what Bio filter media are you using? bio balls (the knobly oplastic

type)

what
wattage is the UV? 18W



TIA

Lost



thanks for your help...

Hi Skycatcher...

from the info supplied.. ill see what info I can supply (I'm a

relatively
new ponder though, so listen to others too)

so far you seem to be doing things right, if its blanket weed it will

be
easy to poke a small bamboo and twist it around it, if it comes out all
binding on the stick its probably blanket weed (only way to remove is

either
keep spiralling sticks or to use chemicals (I always advise avoiding
chemicals until a last resort)

your flow rate is WAY too fast over your uv, and id suggest at full sun
(when we do get it) your UV is actually less than half the size it

should
be
(I have 1000 gallons and advised I need 30W minimum (I've got a 9 watt

at
the moment left over from the smaller pond, but when finances allow it

will
be going up to a 45W (I always go higher than recommended)

add some oxegenator plants..

get a lettuce, (round type) beat hell out of it in a plastic bag (well
bruise it a lot) and put in a bucket of pond water, when the lettuce

starts
looking slimy, introduce the water to the filter (this is called

infusoria
(sp) and is a great natural way of getting algae eating "aqua plankton"

into
your pond..

id suggest halving the flow to your UV and letting the rest of the flow
create water movement..

your pump is really too small for your pond (to clear it) but ok to keep

it
clear once its clear..

the UV will not work well on blanket weed, it will clean "pea soup

green
water" but at this size very slowly..

some of this is assumptions, most people say you need to circulate 100%
pond volume per hour (means you need a 12000LPH pump) you (as your in

full
sun) need a 18000L Filter and probably a 100W UV

however these are guidelines (and often for people who want to keep Koi

and
such)

I think the key here is patience and a few good practice tips

is the filter a "pressurised" filter (below water level) or the "stock

tank"
type? (I've never used a pressurised (although may be moving that way

in
the spring of next year))

also duck weed (surface plant that breeds like wildfire, covers the

surface
(creating shade that kills off the algae)) is a great plant (and when

you
want to get rid, just put in some Carp (ghost carp in mine (just the

one)
loves the stuff (free food for an age too). but the key problem you

have
is
the algae so we will do our best to sort this problem first..

BTW I'm in S/E UK and we getting very little sun considering its

summer
too..

HTH

Lost