"JennyC" wrote in message ...
"Neale" wrote in message
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I want a (moderately) vigorous climber for a north facing, painted brick
wall. The bricks and mortar are very hard, and a lot of things have
struggled to self-cling. Any suggestions of what would suit would be
gratefully received.


Ivy would indeed be a good choice. there are tons to choose from :~)

The ultimate IVY site:
http://www.eastcheam.co.uk/

I love ivies; but I wouldn't have one anywhere near woodwork or a
roof. I've seen quite serious damage caused by it growing into cracks
and between slates, and being allowed to cover a barge-board so
thoroughly that it reduced air-circulation and let rot take hold.

If you will ever need to repaint the wall, any self-clinging climber
will leave a mess when you rip it off, and I reckon ivy's the worst.

Hydrangea petiolaris, perhaps?

I've never actually done it, but people talk of trellises hinged at
the bottom with turnbuckles at the top so you can gently swing them
away from the wall for painting without hurting your clematis or
whatever. I have slight doubts about this in practice, but it seems a
good idea.

Mike.