In article , Larry Blanchard
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n article , sherwindu
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Many very odd things in what you wrote, bordering on phobic.

Hey Rat Girl,
I am sorry I don't belong to your church of the organics.

That you find better agricultural practices a religion indicates you are
not thinking rationally to start with.

another long rant snipped

Paghat, have you ever written a brief response?

Yes.

But I'm not all that interested in communicating with people with the
attention span of a gnat.

Now a report on the yellowjackets. I actually called Terminex. The
responder donned his protective clothing, located the nest, "froze" it
with about a 5 second burst of something, took down the nest and carted
it away. He informed me that the yellowjackets would be angry the rest
of the day and would die overnight. Apparently they need the nest.

If not for your attention span problem you would've seen that in my first
post that was the method I recommended, before noting that it really
wasn't necessary to remove them at all.

However, the frozen wasps do survive the freeze-spray I recommended, & if
the Terminex man believed they were dead, it's gonna be so funny when they
thaw out in the back of his van. I'm sure it was just your attention span
that confused you again though, & he well knew they weren't dead.

So - problem solved, no massive pesticide application, and you can kill
them without waiting for evening.

Wasps that are not in the nest during the freezing aerosol are still
present. All proper treatments are done after nightfall. They do NOT die
for lack of a nest, so again either you were having trouble with simple
sentences or you were intentionally misled by a company that doesn't want
to work late. Wasps outside the nest when it is assaulted will look for
another existing nest & join it. And unless your whole neighborhood is
unusually toxic, there will still be wasps in the neighborhood -- & many
species of wasps & bee-flies will visit your garden unless it is the most
horrifyingly sterile hellhole on the block. If there really are no wasps
left because you assaulted a single paper nest, then live in a toxic zone
that also lacks pollinators.

In any case, your attention span problem is just serving you ill. You are
so proud of your non-chemical method of getting rid of beneficial insects.
If you could pay attention, my point re wasps is they are GOOD for the
garden; any garden that has them is LUCKY; they are docile if their nest
isn't screwed with, & no harm to anyone, & of great benefit. The CORRECT
response to a paperwasp nest is to mark it noticeably so no one runs into
it, instruct kids not to molest the nest, & for that season you will have
one of the best controls for harmful insects living right there in your
garden. They will not be there the following year.

Removing them was merely moronic. If you can do something moronic without
adding the greater crime of spraying pesticides, well two gold stars for
your chore-chart. That makes you less a moron that the complete fool who
saw wasps on fallen fruit & feels he has no choice but to poison his
entire orchard from first bud to final leaf-fall, is feared the apple
worms are chasing him, & regards the proven superior methods for organic
orchards as merely the techniques of Satan worshippers compared to his
best friends the carcinogens.

-paggers

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
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