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(Bill Oliver) expounded:

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paghat wrote:

"to someone like me who came here with absolutely nothing"

He came here with a Mister Universe championship, already invested in a
vitamin company, already richerf than his well-off & comfortable middle
class family in Austria. He was never the poor kid who rose from nothing
he pretends to be.

Yeah, that $1500 Mr. Universe prize pretty much set him up for life.

Yawn.

Which is why he supported himself, aslong with Franco Columbo, as a
stone mason. Anyone who really knows Arnold's story knows he came
here with little resources or money. I haven't just followed him
since his entry into politics, I met him back in the 70's with my then
husband.

But don't expect the Bush haters to listen, Bill, they're a lost
cause. Pun intended.

Sheesh, you make this too easy. The REALITY is Arnold OWNED HIS OWN
MASONRY COMPANY, you silly liar. His company charged MUCH higher than the
going rate by pretending his company was an old European masonry company
-- lying his way to success has remained Arnold's most changeless trait.
So it makes sense that you, his fellow liar, would admire such a liar.

So he's a first-rate businessman, don't deny him at least that! He came
here already a success & got more successful, & did it, by his own
testimony in his own behalf, without ever having to work a full day
through (he swore before leaving Austria he'd never work nine-to-five, &
he never did). If you so love giving him BJs, if you REALLY ever believed
he's so great, you wouldn't be telling such fantastic whoppers hoping
against realitly to make him look better. It would be quite easy to put a
positive spin on the guy's ACTUAL successes but instead you have to tell
lies, you're so ashamed of what he's really about!

Furthermore he got his first important film role in 1970 just two years
after arriving in the US. So way "back in the 70s" when you pretend to
have been his pal, Arnold PERSONALLY claims his best pals of the 70s were
John Voigt, Sylvester Stallone, & Warren Beatty -- NOT you & your ex, what
a hysterically important lie that was, that you personally met him when he
was a stonemason, BWAAAhahahahaha! At the time when you pretend you knew
him as a stonemason he had already sold his half of that business to his
partner; he was already a regular on television programs & talkshows; he
had already broken into films. So tell some bigger whoppers why don't you.

In 1970, to get his first STARRING film role as the title character in
"Hercules in New York," he LIED HIS ASS OFF claiming to have had lots of
stage experience in Europe, though of course he had no acting experience
of any kind, just like he never saw soviet tanks in the streets, was not a
poor kid but quite well off & middle class, did not arrive in the US with
"nothing in my pockets," did NOT observe an oppressive socialist regime as
he this year pretended, did NOT encounter soviet soldiers in terror of
being grabbed & sold into slavery as he fabricated from scratch, but DID
have a nazi father though for years he lied about that, from whom he
learned the politics he still reflects, especially when he trashes the
socialist decade which only antisemites have ever failed to recognize as
Austria's closest brush with a modern golden age.

So I'm so sure a dumbass like you was Arnold's personal friend "in the
70s" when you allege he was a down & out stonemason, so as Franken would
define you, "You lying liar."

And so you dumbasses love giving blowjobs to a man who is a stand-up guy
for a nazi war-criminal like Waldheim, but who publically castigates
Austria's "socialist" interlude which was the only decade when Austria had
a human-rights giant & Jew as chancellor. If you love the man, loving him
for who he really is, & stop lying for him. If you can't you stick up for
him without lying your ass off, even pretending you're his personal friend
from way back, you must actually realize how bad this stuff really is.

Arnold claims in 2004 that he left a Socialist Austria for America, having
seen the damage the Socialist government did there. But when he left
Europe in 1968 (he was living in Germany then), Austria's chancellor was
arch Conservitive Josef Klaus, a red-baiter of the first water, who had no
apologies for the nazi years, who greatly popularized the habit of making
"Jew" and "Socialist" synonyms. Indeed, from 1945 to 1970, Austria was run
by Conservatives with nazi affiliations in their past, & Arnold never
lived in a country with a socialist government of any kind.

Yet at the GOP convention Arnold pretended he left Socialist Austria &
cited that very year. For Arnold's entire life Austria had been run by
Conservatives, so how the hell did this turn "socialist" to his 2004
memory?? Norbert Darabos, head of Austria's modern opposition party, the
Social Democratics, noted that "The Terminator is constructing a rather
bizarre Austria image." Martin Polaschek, a law history scholar and vice
rector of Graz University, noted that "[Arnold] confuses a free country
with a socialist one," it having been habitual for Americans to call all
eastern european nations "socialist" even the ones that are democratic.
Austrians love Arnold, but they were roundly puzzled by how he could tell
such whoppers at the Republican Convention. "There must be political
reasons for such comments," said a very puzzled Vienna waitress, Wilma
Fradney. "You've got to tell [people] what they want to hear." [quotes
taken from wire service reports]

If you know the Austrian history, you know why he said such a nonsensical
thing. It was two years after he left Europe that the brief respite from
"ex" nazi Conservative rule occurred in Austria, the Socialist Decade when
Austria's standard of living rose dramatically & there was for that short
time hope & good fortune for DECENT Austrians. Before Kreisky, poverty &
racism was overseen by Conservative regimes; after Kreisky, it was a
return to poverty & racism headed by Conservatives. But Arnold did exactly
what all nazi-sympathetic Austrians tend to do, they refuse ever to
mention Kreisky by name but allude only to that "horrible" socialist
period -- though it was horrid only for the families of unrepentent nazis
who hated to see equal rights, business opportunities, & university access
for even the poor.

Get used to history, kiddo, & stop pretending you have any position in any
of it. What you & bilbo buggins have in common is you have a lot of
unintelligent opinions, but you never post with even an ounce of
substance, knowing so little that lying is your only option.

People who want the straight dope on Doper Dan Arnold SS, check out
http://www.arnoldwatch.org
Although he's himself a consumate marijuana user & very liberal on issues
of drug use, in most other categories he comes nowhere near the Moderate
he presents himself as being. He has the same Texas mastermind behind his
political career as launched the unqualified George W. Bush. Arnold's a
self-serving, two-faced, power-hungry wacko, & still lying his way to
successes as has always been his method. arnoldwatch.com attempts to
document his ongoing habit of wild & inconsistent fabrications.

-paghat the ratgirl

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