Bill wrote:

I am bored, so I will waste a little time playing with the trolls.

Hi Dave:

A fool you are! LOL

Yep. You like my funny hat and pointy slippers? Colourful aren't they?


I have no problem with you believing in a high fat, low carb diet, I find
the planet overpopulated with fatso's anyway.


Whatever gives you the idea that I believe in a high fat diet?

Far from it. My diet has no superfluous carbs, low saturated & trans
fats and is biased toward protein. I exercise for a minimum of an hour
and a half every day, hydrate very well and do not expect any problems
from the high protein. I eat large quantities of vegetables, fruit and
nuts, cook with healthy oils, eat fish several times a week and eat only
fully trimmed, lean meats in small portions. I have a BMI under nineteen
and less than ten percent body fat. I weigh better than 45 lbs less than
I did in June, all without any damage to my health or any likelihood
that I will have any difficulty maintaining this weight.

You are jumping to unwarranted conclusions with your sweeping
generalisations. Not all people who reduce carbs in their diet are
involved in Atkin's Ketonic Kapers; some approach it it in a sensible
fashion. This newsgroup is alt.support.diet.low-carb, and although there
may well be a number of Atkins supporters posting here, they are just a
part of the crowd, not the core of the group. Even among Atkin's
followers, there are many with a sensible and healthy approach to low
carb, not all are on permanent induction.

I maintained a steady and healthy body weight for more than twenty years
on a relatively high carb diet because I exercised, swam, rode, ran,
kayaked etc., every day. There is no health without exercise, there are
no free rides. I have never met an obese person who had a regular
exercise routine. Diet has little to do with their core problems.
Motivation is the biggest single problem, along with lack of emotional
security/support. The oft touted "fat and truly happy" person is someone
I have yet to meet.

Strangely, exercise is one of the best anti-depressants existing, a pity
more people don't try it.


The nutrition committee of the American Heart Association has issued a
science advisory warning that high-protein diets have not been proven
effective and pose health risks.

Not being proved effective is not the same as being proved ineffective
or dangerous. Sedentary people who derive most of their calories from
protein do often have problems, particularly if they fail to hydrate
sufficiently. Those who are athletic and who bias toward protein do not
have any problems as long as they do not lift protein intake to
excessive levels, ala body-builders.

The report covered the Atkins, Zone,
Protein Power, Sugar Busters, and Stillman diets. The committee stated:

a.. Such diets may produce short-term weight loss through dehydration.
b.. Weight loss may also occur through caloric restriction resulting from
the fact that the diets are relatively unpalatable.

The only advantage of extreme low carb (Atkin's induction - ketosis) is
suppression of appetite. All effective diets work by calorie restriction
- there is no other way. I believe Atkin's induction to be damaging and
unnecessary. The same effects can be achieved by limiting none essential
(no nutritional value) carbs from the diet, capping calories, and
raising BMR by building muscle with exercise.

I have been involved with health & fitness for most of my adult life. My
renewed interest in these groups, particularly Low Carb, is due my
contracting medically induced type 2 diabetes. I was on long term
Prednisone. I doubt very much that anyone is likely to find a better
diet and fitness regimen than the one I am currently on.

You certainly wouldn't be able to, you don't seem to be able to
differentiate between low carb eating, something that is healthy, and
the body damaging extreme carb-starvation type diets. You also need to
differentiate between people losing initial weight, those who are simply
maintaining a healthy weight with healthy eating practices, and
diabetics who need to restrict calories to control blood glucose levels.
All have different needs, reasons, and methods.

Why don't you go and annoy the Atkin's groups? Many of them have
aggression to spare and could use someone like you to vent on.



Regards

David

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