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Old 25-10-2004, 07:35 PM
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In article , "Doug Kanter"
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"IntarsiaCo" wrote in message
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"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without

authority
of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any
correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer

or
agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any

foreign
government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes

or
controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the

United
States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three
years, or both."

Kerry met in 1970, by his own admission, with delegations from the North
Vietnamese communist government and discussed how the Vietnam War should

be
stopped.


Looked at the tags clothing lately? Vietnam's becoming a happy little
capitalist country, regardless of their government. It probably could've
gotten there about 30 years faster without our so-called "help". Since
capitalism is what we WANT to see as a worldwide system (supposedly), Kerry
may have done us a favor, if his efforts in any way sped things up.


Intarsia has always had trouble with the truth & Kerry never met with any
Vietnamese delegation in 1970. In 1970 he met with the delegates of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War, & gave testimony before Congress
repeating some of the eye-witness testimony about atrocities committed by
our Vets as a commonplace, the more decent of whom felt guilt & sadness
for being placed in that position. This testimony is on the record & is
very condemning of the war, as it should have been. But far-right loons,
including some vets who apparently lost their humanity & so have never
felt the requisit guilt & sorrow, have "spun" the testimony to make Kerry
out to be a traitor for having the moral integrity, as a decorated
vetaran, to stand up against injustice. For people with absolutely no
moral integrity it is easy to twist that around & heap lie up on lie,
including that he colluded with communists. The justification for this
amazing lie is that the Vietnam Vets Against the War were or are
themselves a "communist delegation."

These vets were among the greatest of my generation's true patriots, who
both fought the Vietnamese as they were told was necessary, & spoke out
afterward about the undeniable & horrific injusticies & introcities they
saw first-hand. Kerry listened to them; he retold some of their stories;
his own integrity was in sync with that of other brave men. But to very,
very, very bad people, they were always "commies," the name tossed at
anyone in those days who was capable of decency, in emulation of McCarthy.
That they'd still be doing it these decades later shows only that there is
still unrepentent evil afoot -- & evil loves Bush.

The same people who have gathered around liar & propogandist John O'Neill
whose dirty deeds have been repeatedly "outed" as the lies & falsehoods
they inevitably are, but the hope is that by telling these whoppers enough
people will be stupid enough to believe it that some harm will be done
(against all of American).

Besides the assinine assumption that war heros who dislike war are all
communists & to speak to them is to conspire with communists, the other
"basis" for the lie is Kerry's presence at a peace conference in Paris in
1971 (Intarsia says 1970 but that's when he met with antiwar Veterans;
Intarsia like all liars can't keep the lies straight). The truth is that
Kerry as a leading antiwar activist at the time attended a peace
conference attended also by Nguyen Thi Binh from Vietnam. There were no
meetings with Nguyen Thi Binh let alone negotiations, but being in the
same city for the same conference is all it takes for John O'Neill to
start a new round of fabulous lying.

These exact same wackies also claim that Kerry orchestrated in 1995 a
cover-up of the American Prisoners of War still held prisoner in Vietnam
today, obtaining the proof under the guise of heading a Missing in Action
Task Force, then destroying that evidence when it was discovered vets are
still alive. Bushite far-right Republicans haven't tried to take much
advantage of that one yet because even they know it'd make Kerry's
attackers sound like the nutsacks they are.

As Machievelli recommended, find the most unassailable trait of your
opponent & assail that -- for Kerry that means assailing his honesty &
heroism. I would listen to these lies only as a means to assess who is so
morally reprehensible as to be disregarded as even human. Our choice this
year is between a war hero who knows war is a bad thing, or lying
propogandists who want as many wars as possible without regard for how
many Americans & other nationals are killed, so long as Bush's corporate
buddies, safe in their corporate headquarters, can rake in profits,
indebting even our grea-tgrandchildren to today's corporate greed.

-paghat the ratgirl

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