On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:37:24 -0400, FACE wrote
Actually they are quite pretty when allowed to grow in the open.

I agree, they can be -- that's why I said most. They seem to have
sub-varieties too. The last place we lived, out in the country, had
lots of shortleaf. One is a much larger one and has a very nice shape.
It also holds a lot more cones than the others -- I don't know why but
assume it must differ genetically.

But then there were the hundreds of seedlings in other parts ...

Edward