Thread: [IBC] soil
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Old 02-11-2004, 01:33 PM
Jim Lewis
 
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On 2 Nov 2004 at 9:11, Caroll Hermann wrote:

I thought we were talking about how to retain water???? You should relax,
dear,


1. Sarcasm is un-called for. And impolite.


I also fertilize with tobacco dust. (HORROR OF HORRORS) It is a

well
known fact in Africa, that it keeps insects and fungi away.


2. There is a reason. Nicotine is very toxic. That is VERY
toxic. It absorbs through human skin, and its effects are
cumulative and long-lasting. (And if you are a smoker, too . .
..). "Well-known facts" as often as not turn out to be
apocryphal bunkum.

I know of NO pesticide in North America that still uses nicotine
as an ingredient, tho there may be some. Organic growing
manuals advise against it or _at least_ advise the use of
extreme care.

If you read my
piece without attacking first you would have seen that it also said that you
need to soak the butts to get the nicotine out. We are just as hyper about
chemical insecticides as you are about nicotine and prefer the natural way.


3. I'm sure that Nina -- who is a professional plant/fungi
scientist, a licensed pesticide applicator (and the IBC's "Plant
Doctor" -- see our website) -- did read it carefully. But
nevertheless, I fail to see how soaking will "get the nicotine
out" in any real sense -- and the process of soaking seems more
likely to ensure that you get some of the mess on your hands.

4. Your message told us how YOU do it. That is fine and
perfectly acceptable.

5. However, it is ALSO fine and acceptable for persons on the
list who _know_ that some process is potentially dangerous to
the user to warn others so they are aware of the choice they
face if they elect to follow your advice.


Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

-----Original Message-----
From: Nina Shishkoff ]
Sent: 01 November 2004 15:19
To: Caroll Hermann
Subject: [IBC] soil

YIKES! I don't worry about your bonsai as much as
you: remember that nicotine is very toxic. Don't any
of your patrons drink coffee? Coffee grounds would be
preferable. At any rate, you should try to make a
compost pile!


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Nina Shishkoff
Frederick MD

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