rob,

The first is probably a Maxillaria. I don't know which one but you can go to
this site and look through the species to see if yours is among them.
http://www.orchidspecies.com/indexmast-max.htm .

The second looks to me like a Sophronitis. Go to
http://www.orchidspecies.com/sophronitiscernura.htm .

Someone else may have a closer ID for you but these are places to start.

Bob
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hi everyone
who can help me to identify this orchids:

http://de.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rob...ead1/my_photos
thank you
rob