Nikotine is very toxic for many living organisms
like chlorine for life in general
if you use nicotine on aphids it works well if you use chlorine you
kill aphids and plant
so fungi live evyrwhere some of them are sensible to some
chemicals some are not and needs others chemicals
like deseases you do not cure eveyrthing with the same antibiotic..
as simple as that
and anyway teh concentration of teh alkalod has its impotace
bitter alamonds contains cianure
if you eat one or few you do not die
if you eat a kilo probably you will get poisoned
Anil Kaushik wrote:
How someone got influenced with the African myth *known fact in Africa, that
it keeps insects and fungi away*? There is a big tobacco industry in India,
and I have seen tobacco leave infected with insects and diseased and of
course fungi between the leaves. That remind me of divination of Science
which I crammed during my school days..... "Systematic study of living and
non-living matter observed and verified by experiments".
All dried leaves whether those of tobacco or tea, in fact most organic
matter, when soaked in water at a particular temperature, releases most of
the soluble ingredients whether it is NICOTINE or CAFFENE and also some
pleasant or unpleasant flavor or smell.
All said and done, I don't think there is need of tinkering with Cigarette
butts and other unscientific practices for humus/buffer for moisture
retention.
Anil Kaushik
Bonsai Club (India)
Chandigarh "The City Beautiful"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: [IBC] soil
On 2 Nov 2004 at 9:11, Caroll Hermann wrote:
I thought we were talking about how to retain water???? You should
relax,
dear,
1. Sarcasm is un-called for. And impolite.
I also fertilize with tobacco dust. (HORROR OF HORRORS) It is a
well
known fact in Africa, that it keeps insects and fungi away.
2. There is a reason. Nicotine is very toxic. That is VERY
toxic. It absorbs through human skin, and its effects are
cumulative and long-lasting. (And if you are a smoker, too . .
.). "Well-known facts" as often as not turn out to be
apocryphal bunkum.
I know of NO pesticide in North America that still uses nicotine
as an ingredient, tho there may be some. Organic growing
manuals advise against it or _at least_ advise the use of
extreme care.
If you read my
piece without attacking first you would have seen that it also said that
you
need to soak the butts to get the nicotine out. We are just as hyper
about
chemical insecticides as you are about nicotine and prefer the natural
way.
3. I'm sure that Nina -- who is a professional plant/fungi
scientist, a licensed pesticide applicator (and the IBC's "Plant
Doctor" -- see our website) -- did read it carefully. But
nevertheless, I fail to see how soaking will "get the nicotine
out" in any real sense -- and the process of soaking seems more
likely to ensure that you get some of the mess on your hands.
4. Your message told us how YOU do it. That is fine and
perfectly acceptable.
5. However, it is ALSO fine and acceptable for persons on the
list who _know_ that some process is potentially dangerous to
the user to warn others so they are aware of the choice they
face if they elect to follow your advice.
Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson
-----Original Message-----
From: Nina Shishkoff ]
Sent: 01 November 2004 15:19
To: Caroll Hermann
Subject: [IBC] soil
YIKES! I don't worry about your bonsai as much as
you: remember that nicotine is very toxic. Don't any
of your patrons drink coffee? Coffee grounds would be
preferable. At any rate, you should try to make a
compost pile!
=====
Nina Shishkoff
Frederick MD
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