Oscar_Lives wrote:

"USENET READER" wrote in message
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Tom Disque wrote:


On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:08:57 GMT, USENET READER
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Tom Disque wrote:



On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:06:01 GMT, USENET READER
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Oscar_Lives wrote:

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And don't forget all the fat lazy and corrupt union workers who
strangle productivity because of stupid labor rules that require 5
shovel-leaners for every one worker.

Hey **** you - if it hadn't been for those brave union workers who put
their lives and jobs on the line, we wouldn't have the workplace and
wage protections that we have now - 40 hour workweek, overtime
protection, workpace health and safety protection. In fact, all the
protections you have today are due to unions and other liberal ideas.
SO unless you want to be the first on the boat to go back and work in
some slave labor factory in China just for the sake of showing that the
bosses are always right and good, then shut the **** up!

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Those brave union workers who put their lives and jobs on the line are
not the same people as the fat lazy and corrupt union workers who
strangle productivity because of stupid labor rules.


What stupid labor rules are you referring to? Those rules are simply a
contract to deliver labor to management in a specific way. Instead of
management telling you what to do and how to do it and you having no say
other than to quit if you don't like it, labor and management negotiates
the rules by which the work gets done.

It's like delivering any other service - you just don't like the fact
that these workers have rights that you don't have. Are you envious or
jealous? why not admit it instead of calling these workers names because
you can't handle it?


I simply cut 'n' pasted what you and Oscar said and pasted them
together, to emphasize that you aren't talking about the same people.
Did you not notice the exact same wording, or do you not read what you
write?

I DO think it is ridiculous to require a union electrician to plug in
equipment, though.

Depends on where you are plugging stuff into and what else is plugged into
that circuit?

I work in photography and when I go up to NYC to photograph a dancer in a
Broadway show (as I did last summer), I can't just plug into any old wall
outlet. I don't know what the outlet is rated for, what else is plugged
in there, etc. So I get a union guy to do it. He or she is responsible
for knowing the condition of the electrical capacity in the building or
theater. He comes and checks out my equipment, makes sure it isn't gonna
blow up their electrical outlets or in any way keep them from putting on a
show. He knows if the outlet is live and if not, how to turn it on. He
knowns if it is switched off for a reason - it needs to be repaired or
perhaps other things are plugged into it and need to be switched on and
off for the show.

There are all sorts of pratical reasons why you need a union electrician
to do that work - would you want to plug in some cheap-assed made in China
electrical device and blow out an entire electrical panel and keep a
Broadway show from starting on time?

I know also that when my grandmother was n a nursing home, you couldn't
plug in any electrical devices into the wall without first having them
checked out by the custodial staff. You wouldn't want someone plugging in
some crappy old non-grounded lamp and tripping the breakers and grandma's
O2 generator goes out - would you?



You are a ****ing joke.

Why - because it never occured to you that there might be real practical
or safety concerns behind those so-called rules you make fun of? Take
your head out of Bush's ass and stop laughing at the Bush twin's jokes
and look around - if it wasn't for the unions you'd be working in more
of a ****ing slave-labor corporate work state than you are now!