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Old 31-01-2005, 11:32 PM
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UK kitchen refuse is not banned from composting
http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/...cs/kitchen.htm
(snip)


So the ******* have made illegal what nearly everyone in this ng is

doing,
and since then have been trying to avoid admitting it.

You're misleading this group.


No. Defra's website is not as clear as it should be, because it refers

to
the 'amended legislation' without making it totally clear as to whether

the
relevant amendment is the 2001 amendment or the 'pending' amendment.




However,
"Pending the amending of the legislation, spreading on land composted

waste
that contains meat, or could have come into contact with meat, or has

been
in premises that also handle meat, remains illegal"
makes it clear enough


""Use of compost from "green waste".

Where green waste has been properly composted and is no longer waste
then there are no restrictions on its use on land. "


"However the composting and use of green (garden) waste is unaffected by
these provisions."
We were talking about kitchen waste, including vegetable waste from
kitchens, e.g teabags, so your quote concerning green waste is irrelevant.

Here is what Defra says, spelled out for
you from the source I quoted above.

*" Q3. Under the amended legislation, ****will*** householders who

keep
pets or
other animals (which would *access composted material spread on their
land) be allowed to use composted kitchen waste on their *gardens?

*Yes, subject to certain conditions (see below) and providing it is
composted from the kitchen waste *of the household.


[my emphasis added above]


You missed the future tense in the 'will'. I suggest that you re-read

it
taking careful note of how they use the future tense to tell us about

what
the legislation *will* be in future.


You're lost in the past, it was clearly dated 2001.


Don't be daft Janet-
"Page published 24 April 2003;
Page last modified 14 July, 2004 "
Of course it's possible that defra are sufficiently clownish to refer to
2001 as being in the future on a page dated 2004. However, during a similar
discussion I read the actual legislation (2001) and that indeed made it
illegal to compost and spread on land /anything/ that had been in a kitchen,
without any derogation for individual households.

"Use of compost from "green waste".

Where green waste has been properly composted and is no longer waste
then there are no restrictions on its use on land.


Yes. They define green waste as garden waste, and anything that has been in
a kitchen and hence is potentially contaminated, is excluded from their
definition of green waste.


Use of compost from "mixed" waste

Where catering or household waste contains meat or other products
derived from animals then,
although it may be composted, it may not, currently, be used on land.
The Animal By- Products Order prohibits the use of this mixed compost on
land where animals (including wild birds) may have access. However, this
position, is set to change. The draft EU Regulation on Animal By
-Products will allow the use of properly composted mixed waste on all
land except pastural land. We expect this Regulation to come into force
in the Spring of 2002."


The above quote is not from the url you quote, and I suspect that you've
missed a trick. Please give the source of your quote.

--
Anton