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Old 18-02-2005, 05:38 AM
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Srgnt Billko wrote:

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 04:41:35 +0000, Oscar_Lives wrote:


"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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"Timothy" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:14:46 +0000, Srgnt Billko wrote:

I personaly would prefer either of those options over it being made
in china.



What do we have against Chinese at this point ? They are the


fastest

growing economic force - seems smarter to learn Chinese than Spanish
at this point.

Happy Year of the Rooster

At this point in time, the chinese goverment holds over 40% of our
debt. At this point china has taken over more of our manufacturing


jobs

than all
of south america combined.

We openned the door to them about 8 or 10 years ago (forget the name of
the
treaty) so it's not their fault.


Soon we will have to learn chinese just to do
business in this global market.

Like we have insisted that the other countries learn English to survive
in the past. Now it's somebody elses turn - sounds fair to me.


China will be the next global super power
and we will be the ones to fund their abillity to become that. At


least

mexico is a democracy (for what it's worth), but yet we ship millions
of dollars to a communist country everyday. Wasn't communism the enemy
just 15 years ago? Don't we still punish cuba for being communist


still

to this
day? I just doesn't make sense to me to be anti-mexican and
pro-chinese.

It doesn't make sense to me to be anti-communist to begin with.
Actually I
think it's our "capitalism" vs their "socialism". But since we have
more murders than any other country and more lawsuits and more lawyers
and weaker
school systems and more people trying to make it on "networking" than
talent - I can't feel too superior to some other approach. Plus our
society
is becoming more and more socialistic and less and less capitalist


every

day - and BTW aren't the Chinese just being capitalistic in taking
advantage
of an open market ?




Don't forget that even poor people in the United States demand and get


the

basic rights of cell phones, cable TV with HBO, game boys, CD players


for

their rap and hip-hop, Cadillacs, air conditioning, computers, health
insurance, and $300 tennis shoes.

No one wants to work when the government provides it all to you anyway.

This country is going down the drain and it is all our own fault. China
is laughing as they clean our clock and watch us self-destruct.

Greedy and lazy American pigs is pretty much right on.


Sounds like someone has selfimage issues 'round here 80) .....
Don't get me wrong, America has dropped the ball, but IMHO, it's just
plain silly to blame the american people as a whole. Poor people want what
the middle class have and corporate america say's we all need. The
American worker is one of the most efficent, hardest laboring workers on
the planet. We work longer hours with less vaction time than any other
industrialized country in the world.


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Don't make me laugh - "most efficient, hardest laboring" - LOL I can show
you dozens of the least competent, most likely to bs you workers on the
planet. My favorite is when I ask a specific question and get a reply, "As
far as I know it is." Just lip service that helps nothing and just wastes
time. You can get that a dozen times per day around here. You can do it,
we can help ? Ask the "associate" a question about a product and he or she
starts reading the label back to you. WTH do they think I need help with -
reading ?


OK - let me ask you this - if you know that you are working in the cheap
and there is absolutely no reason to work harder or smarter because your
job could either go to a Mexican or get outsourced, why would you take
the time to learn the information that you want to know? Isn't that the
responsibility of the employer to teach their employees this info so
that you can be a satisfied customer? About the only thing that
employers teach employees is to be good listeners and validate customer
concerns - because even if you can't get your problem solved, you might
feel better if you think that you are being listened to.

Make it worth my while to learn something about the products so I won't
lose my job to Mexico or China and I might do that. If you don't reward
performance, why should I try and do better? Today any employee who is
the first to show loyalty to their employer is a fool - it's the rare
employer today who won't sell your ass in a heartbeat to make a buck.

That is why I as a consumer take the time to find out which employers
take care of their employees, which make their products in the USA, and
I only buy from them. If I can't find it made in America, it has to be
something that I really need bad, otherwise I go without. I hate
sending my money over to China to build weapons to eventually use
against us.