I recently rejoined after many years away. I stopped IBC before because of
garbage but decided to give it another chance.
Truthfully I am ready to quit again....what I want is bonsai only
discusssions. Please do whatever is needed to accomplish this.
Pauline
-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf
Of Shelly Hurd
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:24 AM
To:
Subject: [IBC] Admin - R.A.B. - Long
List Members,
In the past two weeks we have seen an increasing number of argumentative /
off topic posts / and increasing numbers of spam posts all received through
rec.arts.bonsai. These posts not only waste my time, they waste yours, and
fill our archives with what can only be politely described as garbage.
We/I have three alternatives: (and others have already said I should not
open this up for discussion). So for 24 hours or so let's discuss. I
strongly urge any and all lurkers out there to join in this discussion.
After that I will close discussion and do what I feel needs to be done.
1) Put up with it. Continue to issue pleas for it not to happen (mostly
disregarded and which also fill the archives).
I need to say here, that those of you on the list know that I prefer to let
most topics run their course, without intervention from me. I'll tell you
that several members ask for my intervention or stronger list management
from time to time but I try NOT to become the final arbiter of what is or
isn't okay for us to discuss as long as it's somehow tied to bonsai. Tom's
limericks for example were a wonderful relief for me when they returned
(thanks Tom).
2) Sever our link with RAB. Bingo, those who only wish to be
spammers/trolls or whatever description you wish to use will no longer have
access to all of us unless they Join The List. Of course if they do join, I
could then be sterner in the control of posts clear to the point of
banishment from the list.
Here I need to add that -- I -- found the LIST via RAB. I don't know that I
would have ever found you folks without it. We're in this to promote the
art/hobby (let's not quibble) of bonsai. Rec.arts lets us be found by
newbies. I have no clue right now how many lurkers are out there who read
and learn but haven't posted yet. I am willing to post weekly/bi-monthly
messages to RAB so that those searching can be invited to the list and find
the knowledge they seek. I do know that we currently have 540 subscribed
members.
3) Immediately place offenders on a filter list. This will prevent those of
us on the mailing list from receiving the problem RAB posts -- unless, of
course, someone else on RAB replies to an offending post. (This option
would not keep these filtered spammers or other offensive postings from RAB;
their posts would continue to show up on RAB). Pressure on our IBC list
archives would be relieved -- except for those replies -- since only
messages that make it to the list go to the archives. But it would add a lot
to my workload.
540 of us. Are you tired of receiving this stuff in your mail. This is,
after all is said and done, YOUR LIST. Which would you prefer. For the
purpose of open discussion, please post ALL replies to the list.
Shelly Hurd - List Owner/Manager
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