"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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Rosa filipes "Kiftsgate" is described as vigorous, but liking sun.
How much does it grow in a season when small, especially when it
gets only a little sun (it will get more as it grows)?

And similarly for Halesia monticola.

Both are in good loam.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


One I planted at the foot of my dads 150 yr old 60 ft pear tree reached the
top in three years.