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Old 06-04-2005, 08:50 AM
steph
 
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There is goodness in everyone. That which we describe as nature,complete
with all human beings, started out as perfect. I am a Christian. I believe
in compassion and forgiveness for all, Yes, all.Human beings can be saved
from what they have become, no matter who they are or what they've done.We
are saved by God's grace.
steph

"escape" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:58:28 -0600, Katra

opined:


shiver Congratulations...
I try to live with the concept of unconditional love,
but you've got me beat there! ;-)


Why shivering? Having compassion for all living things is really a pretty
freeing feeling. It's a nice feeling, actually. Hatred, anger, rage,

unrest
because of things other people do is a huge waste of precious time and
ultimately ineffective. So much more can be accomplished when we're kind

and
try to understand. Unconditional love? I didn't say I have unconditional

love,
I said I loved this and these, but I have compassion for all living beings

and
forgiveness.

Most of those inmates are less than animals. Inhuman monsters with no
compassion or respect for human life, or any other life.


I see. How many inmates have you gotten to know? Do you write to any of

them,
have any connection to any in any way? You'd be surprised at just how
interesting and precious many of them are. You'd be surprised at the

level of
abuse they suffered in their lives to cause them to do harm to others.

There
are many factors. I choose to leave some space and not make blanket

statements
about people. I do have contact with prisoners on a regular basis. The

other
difference between how you think and how I think is that all life is

precious
and being an animal or as you say, less than an animal are not

distinctions I
make about life.

That is why they are there!


Maybe. I didn't say they are warm and fuzzy. I didn't deny their crimes.

I
don't say they (many of them) should be let out. I said I have compassion

for
them. It's called equanimity. Friend, enemy, stranger. This is a

Buddhist
concept. I'm Buddhist. It makes sense that I'd think like this.

Actually,
forgiveness is not a Buddhist only ideal. As far as I know, Jesus

preached
forgiveness as well.

I respect and admire your ability to feel sorry for them. I've not made
it that far yet in my quest for a compassionate attitude...


I don't feel sorry for them. You mix these words as if they are the same.

You
don't have to quest for compassion, you just decide.

And BTW, I don't hate grackles. ;-)
I enjoy their mating dances too!







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