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Laughing here... "I love it, the simplicity of design, the elegance of
the milk crate, the merging of the Flintstonian period with the 21st
century is a nuclear mind bomb!"

See, this kind of statement just puts people on the defensive, something
someone in the business I think would want to avoid. :-?

For those who REALLY want to know the one and only waterfall filter
that is worth the time to install it you can find it here.
http://www.pondkoi.com/pond_products...ll_filters.htm

It is rigid; the sides won't collapse causing the sides to bow in like
all other filters. Why go to all the trouble to install a filter only
to have the lid not fit in a week as the ground settles? We have tried
them all in our over 300+ pond and watergarden installations. Please
trust me on this no matter where you purchase a waterfall filter.

George wrote: So what you are saying to us DIYers is that only your filter can possibly work?
Let us know what you've been smoking so we can all avoid the same mistake you
made.

Though I got a chortle from the "trust me" proving that someone hasn't read
Dr. Johnson's *10 Commandments of Koi Keeping* #1 being: Never, ever trust
a Marketing Rep. I do have to slightly defend "lucky-puppy" in that he does
say "waterfall" filter. Since there are now various brands of this filter
type, I'm sure there are cheaper, thinner brands that don't hold up as he
mentions. I don't think he was putting down our DYI status (just the
milkcrate filter quoted). If you're going to DYI with this type of filter,
at the top of your waterfall, that brand has worked the best for them in
all their 300+ installations.

We need to be less competitive with our attitude of, "my filter is better
than yours" and learn from each other. Not every one is handy enough, or
has family that is, to build them out-of-the-pond filters, so the milkcrate
and low fish load may be the way that works for them. I use a lot of box &
bucket filters in my small pond and stock tanks. They last all year, course
I don't put very many fish in those (mostly babies) and I keep them
protected from blown in debris.

I use to feel when it came to DYI & cost of materials, my filter fit the
bill. Now, if one has the extra bucks, when it comes to recommending
filtration I point to vortex after having a fellow ponder demonstrate the
ease with cleaning the bottom muck out of those. Pull a valve and wait 5
minutes. Sheesh, doesn't come much easier than that. ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

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