Oh, and I should add. If one is scared to cut a hole in the liner? One can
always use the tetra vaccuum bottom drain and go over the side with siphon
effect. Just as I did my first pond, before I knew better. It isn't how I'd
recommend someone do it on a new pond, but it is better than no bottom
drain at all. Aquascape (or similar) has retrofitted and started putting
these connections into their skimmer boxes. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~