On Sat, 21 May 2005 22:44:18 +0100, wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:00:42 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from (Paula) contains these words:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 11:46:05 +0100, Jupiter
wrote:

What evidence is there that a contact herbicide with no residual
properties, inactive on ground contact, is destroying the planet?


Just google it and stop kidding yourselves, everything has a
consequence and most of it is completely uneccesary anyway.

The evidence you presented in this post says

Most of the studies identifying RoundUp's true toxicity are recent,
and certain areas of RoundUp's toxicity have yet to be thoroughly
studied. Case law involving RoundUp victims is almost non-existent
due to this lack of scientific information with which to prove
causation.

Do you understand that statement?

It is for these reasons that it is important to also look to anecdotal
information about RoundUp's toxicity to humans in order to develop a
full picture of the symptomology it causes.

Only, anecdotal evidence isn't a full picture of symptomology, or even
a reliable one.

When copying stuff en masse from American websites, you should be
aware that different formulations of Roundup are licensed for use in
the UK today, from formulations used in America several years ago.
Anecdotal evidence IN AMERICA about a different formulation used here,
is more or less meaningless.

GM crops are produced,marketed and eaten in the USA. But they are
not produced here, largely because the UK public declined to buy them.
Some UK supermarkets make a selling point of "no GM products in foods we
sell". So why are you quoting anecdotal, unproven, specifically American
food reports about consumption of GM foods, as if they relate to the
very different circumstances/consumption here in the UK?

I note that every single website you have quoted refers to reports and
research originating from other countries. Wouldn't it be more effective
to provide UK gardeners with UK research evidence, performed in the UK,
peer reviewed in the UK, relevant to UK climate, soils, conditions,
farming practices, forestry practices and UK products containing
glyphosate?

Janet

Janet.

Is one "Janet" not enough? :-))

I suspect what is toxic in the USA mught be toxic here.

Caroline Cox, scientific editor of the Northwest Coalition for
Alternatives to Pesticides has carried out an excellent study of the
hazards of Roundup.

From memory, it appears that some of the surfactants are more toxic
than the Glyphosate itself. In other words, it's the cocktail in
total that's the problem.

You can download "Glyphosate.pdf" from their website at
www.pesticide.org


My interest in this is that the fake conservationists use it :-(

Sadly some people are just too dumb to care whats good for them.