On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:41:02 GMT, (Roy) wrote:

Ok, I have a lot of lilys with what looks like hail damage, but it is
not. The damage looks like a hole with about 270 degrees of its
circumference seperated from the lilly and a small portion that is
still attached., sort of like a large hole that is punched in a paper
but with a little portion of the material left like a hinge......I
have looked and looked for bugs, but nothing that I could see, its
certainly not hail,,,,,,so what is it thats making these holes and
whats the cure...........

If not hail, how about this critter, the China Mark Moth?
http://www.victoria-adventure.org/wa...ars/page1.html

In my encyclopedia of WG plants by Speichert he mentions China Mark Moth, I
suspect from a picture in here and your description below that this
caterpillar is causing that plant to have problems too. The recommended
treatment is Btk (Bacillus Thuringiensis var. kurstaki. ~ jan

.....Absolutely no current or water splaching on it either....At any
given time you can look at the crown and see dozen and dozens of new
leaves forming and starting to push upwards. OK, now the main problem
is once a leaf is on the surface, it lasts no more than 5 to 7 days
and its rotted and black....I had been watching this plant very
closely as leaves virtually rotted over night.........and from the
time a leaf hits the surface no matter what size it is, its blac,k and
mushy and rotted within a week....yes it puts up a heap of leaves
constantly, more than any other lily I have ever seen......I just
wonder if this perpetual leaf machine is like this due to its short
term life expectency of its leafs or what? I have knocked back
sunlight to a minimum of 4 or 5 hours, and tried all sorts of other
things, but the results never vary, they still rot within a
week......the blooms are fantastic with every day of the three day
period getting a different color, but its sure a mess keeping leaves
cleaned up off just this one plant...........Thnking seriously of
pulling it out and putting it in the other large aquarium, since it
has yet to even fill 1/2 the top surface of a half barrel......More
like maybe a 12 to 16 inch diameter at most.

Any suggestions on the holes in the regular hardy tuype lilys and the
rotting leaves on the Charlies Choice lily appreciated.


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