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Maybe also the wrong variety for the scottish climate - they where
just cooking seeds out of tesco.


Quality named species seeds are a better bet anyway. The cooking seeds
may have been totally unsuited to the climate in Scotland. I live in
the far north of Scotland and this year attempted to grow some seeds
outdoors and some in the polytunnel. The outdoor seeds have all failed,
probably due to the awful cold and wet weather we had in July
(Depression in Norwegian sea causing constant north winds). The tunnel
seeds have fared better.

Curiously, the seeds costing 26p from Lidl's flowered just as well as
the expensive T&M seeeds although the T&M have made more seed than the
Lidl's ones. The seed heads will be fed to the birds this winter, with
the exception of a few that I shall sow next year to see if I can get
them to grow.

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Cheers,

Compo.