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Old 31-08-2005, 11:24 PM
Roy
 
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My poiint is those people had amaple time to get provisions that are
necessary to sustain life for just a few days, a case of bottled water
sdome cans of beans etc would do just fine.........but they elected to
buyt smokes and booze......and kick back and wait for the $hit to hit
the fan and then do their own ittle looting. These peope were all
within walking distance of the Superdome and a meal and shelter and
water and medical care..yet they elected to take their chances by
staying in their housinging areas, and taske advantage of a
situation........they always do........with them its like a feeding
frenzy of sharks,,,,,,,,and all they are and all they will ever be is
a leqch or cancer on society........I am in agreement with what a few
officals have already stated, shoot em tag em and mark them as a
looter and move on.........No, here we are spending all kinds of
resources rescueing the dredges of life that should not have had to be
rescued..........in the first place, but took their chances so they
can get a new pair of sneakers or a color TV. You can go without food
and water for as long as they have without having to have the animal
come out, its just not human, be it you, me or anyone else at this
early stage of the game to have to get so darn radical and do whjat
they are doing...........I seriously doubt that many can comprehend
the magnitude of a logisitical operation this is.........I have been
involved in some extremely large logistical moves, and this one is
the mother of all moves........but it can;'t be done at the wave of a
magic wand. All roads and bridges into the area has to be checked for
safe passage of transport..........helicopters can only carry so much,
and as long as your breathing and alive, maybe a bit hungry, you'll be
ok, it just takes time. I personally see lots that could have been
done, lots that they shoulkd be doing now, especially concerning
kicking fellow americans when they are down as those looters are
doing, but overall I think they are doing a great job of getting this
situation under control. To risk a million dollar aircraft, lives of
the air crew to rescue someone that should not have had to be rescued
just because said person wanted to have a chance perhaps at ripping of
a pair of sneakers is pityfull........I would let the jokers rot on
the interstate ramp and hope another storm or heat wave came
in.......and the waters got higher.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:13:44 +0100, "Gill Passman"
gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote:

===
==="Roy" wrote in message
et...
=== On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:10:00 GMT, "Snooze" wrote:
===
=== ===
=== ==="Herb" wrote in message
=== ===news:6%cRe.27090$Uz2.22252@trnddc02...
=== === Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment
===to
=== === assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.
=== ===
=== === -S
=== ===
=== === You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state
===has
=== === publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen
===available
=== === to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
=== === conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill
===orders for
=== === the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or
===Police.
=== === Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it
===wouldn't
=== === last long.
=== ===
=== ===
=== ===The Koreans did exactly that, permission or not, in the Rodney King
===riots,
=== ===seems word got out really quickly.
=== ===
=== ===-S
=== ===
=== Word does not have to get out, its instinct and hard wired in these
=== people, did I say people, I meant to say animals.........They are
=== always looking for an opening to take advantage of ANY situation.The
=== FOX coverage of them walking around nonchalantly right after Katrina
=== passed through, The French Quarter pretty well dry and intact, and
=== isolated from the rest of NO, they new darn well they could pretty
=== well do what they wanted and get away with it......so they went for
=== it.......Even with officers there with shotguns pointed at them did
=== little to deter them, as they knew they were not gonna get shot, and
=== they more than likely were not gonna get arrested and hauled in tot
=== jail since they could not transport those arrested and try and stem
=== further looting while they were gone.......They shjould shoot em all
=== on sight if they have so much as a gal of milk or a lopad of bread,
=== since there is not once busiiness open in that city and selling food
=== and other merchandise......see a brand new pair of NIKEs on them odds
=== they ripped em off at the Footlooker that they so diligenlty tore
=== apart and plundered.......scumballs are what they are and they have no
=== place in socieity.
===
=== ==============================================
=== Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
=== "The original frugal ponder"
=== ~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o
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===I think that under the circumstances there is a big difference between those
===trying to get food and drinking water and those that are looting for the
===sake of it for material gain - afterall any electronic goods will be shot
===with the flood water, clothing might also fall under the essentials
===category. Under the same circumstances, as a law abiding citizen (UK) I
===think that I would do everything in my power to provide my family with food
===and clean drinking water. What disturbs me is that there does not appear to
===be any coordinated effort to "legally" loot these shops and get the food and
===drinking water to those that so obviously need it - leaving it to waste and
===rot and become submerged is equally as criminal...surely part of the
===recovery focus should be on salvaging as much as possible for use by those
===in dire need left in this city....but I guess it is a manpower issue.
===
===I am very concerned with the news that I see coming out of this city and the
===surrounding areas. I am worried about the sheer scale of evacuation with
===limited resources that is going to need to take place to get those lucky
===enough to survive out of there. I am worried that those that sought
===sanctuary in the Superdome might not find it their ultimate prison....I hope
===very much that this won't be the case....I'm worried about the lack of
===reports of aid going into the area.....
===
===I think that because of the nature of the reputation of the States as a
===super power you are not getting the help that you need from the rest of the
===world...when you look at the response to the Tsunami tragedy on boxing day -
===draw your own comparisons - potentially this is a disaster on the same (if
===not greater) scale.
===
===I've never had to face the dilemma of leaving my home to an uncertain
===fate...I cannot comment on how I would cope with it or whether indeed I
===could do it....on balance I believe that life is more important than
===property...but for the elderly, infirm and poverty stricken this is no more
===an option in our society than for those in third world countries....some may
===have stayed because they didn't truly believe that it would happen but
===others will have remained because they had no choice.
===
===All this being said, I am very glad that you got out. I don't know the exact
===region where you live but I am guessing it was affected....
===
===I wonder if New Orleans will ever recover from this....but the focus should
===not just be on this city but on other communities that will never, ever be
===the same.
===
===Gill
===



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Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
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