Thanks for your comments.
If I am getting grapes from the original rootstalk then I guess the plant is
kaput no?
I did find that originally the canadice grapes were very mild tasting but
this year's tasted much like a concord. However, the grapes didn't all have
seeds so it must be a cross pollination problem. However again ,you say you
are getting seeds too so maybe it's the result of that hot summer we had.
hard to come to a conclusion eh ;-)

I think I'll get rid of the steuben and see how the canadice turns out then.
Wayne