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Old 28-09-2005, 03:35 PM
Michael Persiano
 
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Marty makes a good point. If it works, do not fix it.

Yet, I would underscore the importance of understanding your growing environment and species in the context of your soil selections, i.e.,

1. Seasonal behavior (dry, rainy, sunny, overcast, etc.)
2. Watering habits and method (can, drip system, can waterer, hosed, etc.)
3. Species of trees (water loving, prefers drier soil, etc.)
4. Position (full sun, indirect sunlight, shade)

With respect to the use of garden soil, I do not know what that means. );-) Is it sandy, clay, loam, bark rich, inorganic component rich, etc.? My "garden soil" is clay.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Haber
To:
Sent: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:18:54 -0400
Subject: [IBC] Non organic Yamadori soil


Michel and everyone else watching this thread - Please don't fuss so much. One of the best bonsai growers I know uses only builder's sand and peat. His trees are very healthy. Another well known grower uses garden soil! He manages the largest bonsai nursery in Germany.
What do I use? A blend of inorganic
pebbles, baked clay, decomposed granite and pelletized fertilizer. This combo requires frequent watering because the water flows right through it. I NEVER get root rot.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Bourgeois"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: [IBC] Non organic Yamadori soil

Oups!

I have looked this morning in Bonsai Today no. 88 about river sans and I
understand than this is not river sand than I have but regular sand. So, it
is heavier. Is there a chance it will crush, because of the wait?

I hate being Canadian!!! I can't find any real river sand, pumice or haydite
in this big hole!!! (Sorry, I just took 2 coffees this morning... I think I
need 2 extras! Lol)

Example?: I will pay my cottonseed 18us$ and it will cost me 40us$
shipping!!!

Michel


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Internet Bonsai Club ] De la part de
Michael Persiano
Envoyé : 27 septembre 2005 13:23
À :

Objet : [IBC] Non organic Yamadori soil

Mon Ami:

If you want a source for haydite, contact
http://www.youkoubonsai.com/
and tell Keith I sent you.

However, the mix that you are suggesting, Hard Akadama (double line brand),
Turface, River sand, and Virginia pine bark should be fine. Equal parts of
each should work well. If you are going to use this mix with fertilizer
cakes, be certain to lightly rake the surface of the root pad once every 2-3
weeks to ensure water penetration.

I would suggest that you not use lava stone or perlite for bonsai culture.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
members.aol.com/iasnob


-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Bourgeois
To:
Sent: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:50:06 -0400
Subject: [IBC] Non organic Yamadori soil

Hi,


I have 6 realy nice and huge yamadori I am going to make and I want to pot
them in fast growing soil.


For this I want to use a non-organic soil, using fertilizer cake and water
with fish emulsion. I don't mind watering 3 times a day. Like in this post:


http://internetbonsaiclub.org/compon...133/topic,5966
..0/


Here in Canada I can't find any pumice, haydite.


I have this:


- Hard Akadama (double line brand)

- Turface

- River sand

- Virginia pine bark (wich I won't use for my non-organic soil)



What do you suggest? I could get perlite. Maybe I could get black lava rock.
but with difficulties.


Thank you,


Michel

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