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Old 16-10-2005, 03:33 AM
J Fortuna
 
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Default (continued on the subject of keikis) Help with roots..

RaT,
In addition these pages might help you determine whether you have a keiki
(baby plant or plantlet) and what to do with it.

Phal keiki (image and instructions)
http://www.easyorchids.co.uk/site/content/view/30/71/

If you do have a Phal keiki, you do not have to separate it from the mother
plant. As long as both plants are healthy, you might consider leaving the
keiki connected to the mother plant for a while. If the roots of the keikie
start to dry out, you could make a sock out of a piece of pantyhose and fill
it with potting media, and water it there without necessarily separating the
two plants for a while. The keikis look kind of cool attached to the mother
plant, in my opinion. Plus as Kenni recently responded to a post about a
phal equestris keiki of mine:

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
In our experience, that keiki will also bloom sooner, still attached to
"mom," than if it had been removed and potted up "on its own." When mom

and
child both bloom at the same time, it's a really great display. Kenni


I am not sure whether Kenni's reply would apply to all Phals though -- phal
equestris which Kenni's reply referred to is a very small plant, whereas
many other types of Phal need to get much bigger before they are flowering
size. However, I think that even the bigger Phal's keikis could benefit from
being left attached to the mother plant longer.

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Dendrobium keiki
image http://rv-orchidworks.com/orchidtalk...ead.php?t=2766
instructions http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/ces/yard/1996/111196.html

These instructions seem to suggest that it's better to separate the
Dendrobium keiki early (?). I don't have personal experience with
Dendrobiums (most of my orchids are Phals), and thus I do not know about
this.


Hope this helps.
Best,
Joanna

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:Wji4f.3765$W32.1189@trnddc06...
RaT,

Part of the problem is that the flowers of the Phalaenopsis orchid

resemble
those of the Dendrobium Phalaenopsis orchid -- yes there is a kind of
Dendrobium that is called a Dendrobium Phalaenopsis, but it is still a
Dendrobium and not a Phalaenopsis. Pretty confusing for beginners, since
Phals and Dends require different care.

When trying to determine whether you have a Phal or a Dend, pay attention

to
the leaves and not the flower. Do the leaves all come out from

approximately
one central point (called the "crown")? If yes, it is a Phal. Or do the
leaves seem to come out from different points along "canes" -- a stem sort
of like a bamboo cane only thicker than bamboo. Not sure whether I am
describing this well, but: There is basically a kind of stem that the

leaves
grow out of and there may well be more than one such stem with leaves.
Whereas a Phal is going to just have leaves (and if you plucked off all

the
leaves there would be almost nothing left -- don't do that, by the way.

:-)
The following links include drawings or photos of Phalaenopsis and
Dendrobium -- pay attention to the leaves and not the flowers when looking
at these drawings and photos, and see whether your plant looks like one of
them. These links also include culture information for how to care for

these
once you establish which it is.

Phalaenopsis
http://www.canadianorchidcongress.ca...laenopsis.html
or
http://www.aos.org/aos/uploadedfiles...lturephals.pdf
or
http://www.gflora.com/index.php?cmd=...y&genus_id=202
or

http://www.infojardin.com/plantas_de...alaenopsis.jpg

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Dendrobium
http://www.canadianorchidcongress.ca...endrobium.html
or
http://www.aos.org/aos/uploadedfiles...redendrobe.pdf
or
http://www.gflora.com/index.php?cmd=...y&genus_id=183
or

http://www.infojardin.com/plantas_de...dendrobium.jpg

I hope this helps.
Best,
Joanna

"RaT" wrote in message
...
The orchid is similar to the one the right in this picture
http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/image...orchids-1.jpeg

and this one
http://www.windycityart.com/recent/o...20painting.jpg

hope this may help to identify it