Kay wrote:

Yes but we can remember 5th November parties when all leaves had gone.
These days, they seem to hang on longer and longer! Our young mulberry tree
is in the same phase, BTW.

I think the sequence is much the same, it's just so much later - this
year in particular (we've had no frost as yet, and still have healthy
nasturtiums - usually the first to go), but most of the recent winters
have been mild.

Indeed. I can't remember when we last had a frost before December, must be
early/mid 90's? What's your recollection Kay?

Jim