Hi all,

I am looking for some "brainstorming" ideas for my backyard
landscaping. I live near Pasadena. I think that is Zone 18 (?)

I have a "pool size" yard, surrounded by block wall, with a few trees
(only 1 lemon tree can't be moved) and it's down at the end.

I started out wanting to do a flagstone patio in the center to extend
the usability, then plant "shady" stuff all around the patio to keep it
cooler. (e.g. http://www.redwoodhollow-lajolla.com/flagston.htm)

But I am open to considering other materials for the patio (still
undecided), so this is one subject I'd like your thoughts on (Well, two
- patio type and plant ideas and experience)

Then I thought - why not just get rid of all the grass, I just do more
plants etc.... But I don't want to flagstone the .whole thing (too
much $$ I think)

Please share experiences/thoughts/links on this.

Thanks