quote..by the by does anyone know how hardy oestopernums ( not sure of

spelling) are as mine have wilted heavily with the frost.

Depends on the variety. I had one in Lincolnshire for years, not sure
which as it came as a cutting from my father, took everything the
weather could thow at it including being frozen for days at a time,
best to just leave it and see. Plenty in full flower here at the
moment.

Mike