On 29/11/05 15:21, in article
, "Mike"
wrote:

I have been pondering on Sacha's damn stupid statements for quite some time
and have come to the conclusion that her 'so called friends and Masons' are
no longer Masons. A bold statement I know, but Provincial and Grand Lodge
have been stating for a long time that the hush hush side of Freemasonry is
dea and buried and we must be more open and tell and help the public more,
just as your friend did and does.

There is another reason why Sacha's friends and Masons are not in touch with
today's Masonic Fraternity, and that is because they are not "active"
Masons. Don't attend their Lodge for meetings, and don't make any
contribution to the Fraternity, except old aged customs. Possibly not been
inside their Lodge rooms for years and certainly don't listen to the VGO at
the Festive Board.

Nice to see you remain true to the same old tactics, Crowe. You have been
'pondering' on my statements for some time, have you? I only made them at
mid-day today and it isn't 6pm yet. Even on the Planet Crowe that hardly
makes it 'some time'. And you move from you 'have come to the conclusion'
to stating your conclusions as facts. This despite the fact that you don't
know me, you don't know the Masons I know and you have no idea to which
Lodges they belong.
But this won't wash because I know your habit is to tell your jumped up
stories and then attempt to attack the probity of others who show you up for
what you are. The Masons I know attend their Lodge meetings on a regular
basis but the Mason I know best was Master of his Lodge and he attends every
meeting of that Lodge, every month, regular as clockwork, as do relatives of
his. He has to be very ill to prevent him from going. It is from that
person that I did, indeed, learn more about Freemasonry - I also learned
that there are a lot of people who like to pretend to be Masons if they
think it will advance them with others, and that there are PLENTY who become
Masons for that reason alone. Strictly speaking, they are frowned upon, but
nonetheless can reach influential positions within Freemasonry if there are
not enough others prepared or able to take on the various tasks and roles of
a Mason within his Lodge. It can be an expensive business for someone on a
tight income. People may draw their own conclusions as to which of these
categories would-be Master Crowe falls into.
I have no objection to people being Freemasons if that's what they want to
do; I have no interest in whether you are a Freemason or not, none; what I
DO object to is you, boastful as always, using that brotherhood to attempt
to advance yourself on a newsgroup. What on earth is the *matter* with you
that you feel the compulsion to do that - to brag endlessly about your
pocket handkerchief back lawn, your money, your son's money and car, your
cruise (ye gods, nobody else here has ever gone on a cruise!) your
connections, your 'knowing how to do things properly because my people were
hoteliers', which made a bigger fool out of you than you will ever realise
or admit to with its twee suburban table manners. Give it a rest, Crowe -
all you're doing is making yourself even more of a laughing stock - imagine
being the sort of person who feels it necessary to *boast* about being a
Freemason!
You're a joke and not even a good one.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)