"Rupert" wrote in message
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He says that the bits that grab the twiggy bits are fine and the tendrils
that go for the trellis die.

Yes - that's correct - absolutly right.

In the absence of any other info I guess that unsupported tender shoots
wafting around against a rough wood surface will die back (perhaps)
That's the best I can do at the moment

Hmm - but the twiggy bit were roughish too.

Thanks thanks to all for their help.
Roy