On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:15:21 -0700, Glorfindel wrote:
Derek wrote:

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If you don't hate or ignore me for the things I've said and
done to you, how can you criticise me for not hating or
ignoring Jon for the things he's said and done to me?

I'm not; I'm just asking why you want to help him after all
the cruel and unkind things he has said and done to you.

Where do you get this idea that I'm trying to help him,
anyway? I really can't see what you mean by saying
that. There's no evidence to show that I've ever helped
him, and there's never been a time when he's been in
a position to accept whatever help I'm supposed to be
giving him, either. The only time where I might have been
of some help to him was when I introduced Salt's essay
on the logic of the larder to support an argument Jon had
already arrived at entirely independently by himself years
earlier.

Our
issue was far more serious than just the name-calling and
abuse I get from Jon, and yet you say you don't hate me.

No, I don't.

Thanks.

I think you are basically a decent person,
and you mean well.

And again. I really DO appreciate that. Tell you what,
to get my anti-Jon cred back again, shall I undo Salt's
essay and help Harrison by making an analogy between
"getting to experience life" and opening a bank account?
Both "can have a negative or a positive value", according
to Harrison, and both are a "benefit which makes all
other benefits possible." Both fail to exist unless we invest
something of our own to bring them about, and if I can get
Harrison to believe that such an investment is the morally
correct thing to do concerning livestock animals, Jon will
have a right weird time trying to cope with him after that.
Will that do, or should I spend another ten minutes thinking
up something even worse for him and maybe water tight?
The bank account analogy is just a fancy that came to me
while writing this response to you. I could do a lot better
if I put my mind to it.

I don't hate anyone

I believe that's true.

, not even Slippery.
I do distrust him, and I will never tell him anything about
myself, but that is different.

Ah, now, when have I ever implied that I trust Jon on these
issues? Believe it or not, Jon knows quite a bit about my
private life that would embarrass me considerably in front
of everyone here, and yet he's not even hinted or threatened
to reveal those things, ever.